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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 520197" data-attributes="member: 2477">I've been on both sides;as a DM, I had a player that had a dwarven wizard that chose Toad and simply forgot about him after that. I should have just ruled the toad asphyxiated in his back pack or something...My (now most likely defunct, since the campaign is most likly gone) Black Mage (gnome conjurer) chose a Toad. The DM allowed the stuff from Spells and Spellcraft.Tsathogua has always been useful to me, simply as someone to complain about the other players to.I performed a Dark Ritual (IC) to try to give him more power, instead he was now Cute and could Glow. The next attempt at a Dark Ritual netted him the See Invisibility I was after, but now he has wings and can speak common!He flies around, glowing and chatting with Fighter all the time. I've even tried to use him to get an extra share when people want to pay us per person <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />A familiar is always going to be bonuses for nothing if you simply forget him in a pocket. It's up to the DM to regulate them. In my game, I simply had other things to keep track of, and ignored the familiar of the dwarf wizard.The more irritating one was actually a former player that had a snake familiar, and would send him ahead to scout, and use him as an extra listen/ spot roll. IMO, scouting familiar's are a huge liability.</blockquote>

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