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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 522039" data-attributes="member: 158">And so I have - your own group, and coyote6's, are more evidence as to my point. It may be a powerful option in and of itself, but then again, so are clerics. Clerics are arguably the most powerful character class out of the eleven base classes. Yet, most groups do not have powergaming players lining up to form all-cleric parties.I'm not saying it's all the evidence I need, but it does reinforce that something is not too powerful if people are seldom choosing it.That I can certainly agree with. Familiars and all "beastly" companions really need to be emphasized, but I find it hard to see where the rules can emphasize them any more. As always, it's up to the gamers themselves to breathe life into the details.I can agree it's a powerful object, and was given this most likely for the same reason clerics were beefed up. Before, getting a toad as a familiar was a joke - it was the ultimate "screw" of the dice to a player (or at least was in my old gaming groups.) Now, in order to be a viable choice, it has to have something that compares with flight, darkvision, extra feats, and all the other cool powers of other familiars.Again, I don't see in my group or on these boards examples of several characters taking a wizard level just to get a toad. If I saw that, then I could be persuaded otherwise. As it is, compared to single-level rangers, expert tactician abilities, and unerrata'ed mercurial swords, the lowly toad just ain't gettin' much rules abuse by powergamers, from what I've seen.</blockquote>

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