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Message: <blockquote data-quote="IndyPendant" data-source="post: 2847885" data-attributes="member: 8738">Well, Hyp would probably argue that what you call it does not matter; the item would still be an Ioun Stone once created, and would not stack.  Kind of like if you'd called the thing 'Ralph'.  Ralph still would not stack with other +1 CL Ioun Stones.However, let's extend this example.In the magic item creation rules, it says you multiply the cost of creation by 1.5 for abilities that are placed in items in the wrong 'body slot'.  You multiply the cost by 2 for abilities that are placed in items that do not take up a body slot at all.  In Complete Arcane there is a Ring of Arcane Might that gives +1 CL that costs 20kgp.  Since the Ioun Stone does not take up a slot, and therefore both magic items seem to follow the formula, we can assume that any +1CL item created that does not take up a body slot would cost 30kgp.So my question then becomes: if I purchase a Ring of Arcane Might and an Orange Ioun Stone, and then create a Pearl of Arcane Might, a Cube of Arcane Might, and an ArcaneMightStone, will I then gain +5 CL?  --At the cost of 140,000 gp, note.And if so, Hyp, is this one of those cases where you're arguing "This is what RAW says, not what I say RAW should be"? : )--And for those screaming "THIS IS BORKN!!!!!!eleven"  --Remember two things: 1) multiple 30kgp purchases are not insignificant at any sub-epic level.  You're giving up a *lot* of options to get, what?  +2-5 CL?  --I'd rather have the bonus spells, DC increase, skill boosts, etc etc from a permanent Ability Enhancement Item and the relevant Tome or Manual, myself.  Or a Con-boost item.  Or a Robe of the Archmagi.  Or...etc etc. *shrug*  2) Multiple Ioun Stones whizzing around the wizard?  He can't afford them until higher levels, so a fighter-type with at least 3 attacks by then comes along and sunders three of them in one round with very little chance of failure.  That would be 90kgp and +3CL gone.  Oops. : )</blockquote>

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