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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Knowledge Checks" data-source="post: 5902677" data-attributes="member: 6681261">I've run it twice, for different groups. My advice is to have them make new characters specifically for this dungeon and to run it straight (not changing it to make it easier).I wouldn't recommend throwing it into your regular campaign because if they're not serious optimizers they will probably all die. I also don't like the "it was all a dream" but your group may.Also, be sure to overemphasize how deadly the dungeon is. I thought I had properly explained the difficulty to the second group, but a few rooms into the dungeon and there was much cursing and gnashing of teeth. What I realized is that the players assumed (and fairly so) that even though it was supposedly really hard, it was designed along standard WoTC 4e design rules.It's not. It specifically breaks the design rules and incorporates things to increase the danger that aren't found in WoTC 4e design. So that was my mistake, but once the players realized that they got into the swing of it. If you explain that beforehand I think they'll have a better idea of what they're getting into.</blockquote>