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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mort" data-source="post: 5554977" data-attributes="member: 762">In post # 20 you said:Forcing PCs to face oponents of a given power level (or even range of power levels) = level scaling - it's the definition. The dispute is whether this in and of itself = railroading. You say yes it does (it's right there) - Danager (and others including myself) say no it does not. That is the argument.Yes this is a clear case of railroading - it also has nothing to do with level scaling which is more like:You pump the bartender for information and he tells you about a red dragon's lair to the west." (DM knowledge a Party CR+4 challenge)Player: "Too risky. anything else?"Barkeep:   "Well there are the trolls to the south, They're causing a lot of havoc and are rumored to have much treasure." (DM knowledge a party CR+2 challenge)   Player: "Nah, we're in the mood for something a bit less strenuous."Barkeep: "Well there are the kobolds outside the city, they're pesky. But the rewards will likely be nowhere near as good!" (A party CR -3 challenge)This is still an example of level scaling (The DM is artificially controling the CR of the monsters to something the party can handle) - but railroading? I don't think so.I think the disconnect is forcing a specific challenge/situation which is railroading - level scaling does not imply that you are.</blockquote>