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<blockquote data-quote="Dannager" data-source="post: 5707989" data-attributes="member: 73683"><p>Are you freaking kidding me?</p><p></p><p>Come on, Aberzanzorax.</p><p></p><p>This review is like someone saying "So here's my review for this car: it said Porsche on the tail but it was actually a Ford, so 1.5/5.0," completely ignoring the question of <em><strong>how good of a car is this car?</strong></em></p><p> </p><p>No. This is like asking "I'm not a big fan of your typical SUV. What does this SUV bring to the table that makes it different from the rest?"</p><p> </p><p>Nothing is more fun than a Vespa.</p><p> </p><p>None of those questions were irrelevant. Not a one. And <strong><em>all of them</em></strong> are more relevant than "How many times did their rules deviate from the standard 4e rules?"</p><p></p><p>You understand how slapping the label "D&D" on Plants vs. Zombies and slapping the label "D&D" on Heroes of Neverwinter are two <strong><em>very</em></strong> different things, yes?</p><p></p><p>Tell me you understand this.</p><p></p><p>Again, Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara is one of the best-reviewed D&D games of all time. But here you are telling me you would have given it a terrible review score, because it's not enough like <strong><em>real</em></strong> D&D for you.</p><p> </p><p>And again, this is irrelevant. If you gave <em>Plants vs. Zombies D&D Edition </em>an awful review for no other reason than that it had the label "D&D" tacked on, you'd also be branded as an awful reviewer. The fact that it wouldn't really have anything to do with D&D might warrant a cautionary note in the review (again, something like "If you're looking for a faithful Dungeons & Dragons experience, look elsewhere. This is a Plants vs. Zombies game. But if you're curious as to whether <em>Plants vs. Zombies D&D Edition</em> is an enjoyable game, read on.") To make the thesis of your review "This isn't enough like real D&D, even though it at no point tries to convince you that it's real D&D!" is to completely miss the point of a game review.</p><p></p><p>If you think Heroes of Neverwinter had the D&D brand attached to it as a "trick", you're <strong><em>straight up delusional</em></strong>. This is a D&D game. This is not Starfox Adventures.</p><p></p><p>I'm sorry, <em><strong>what</strong></em>?</p><p></p><p>Heroes of Neverwinter features D&D classes. It features D&D races. It features monsters. It features magic items. It features dungeons. It features dragons. It features adventures. It features <em><strong>the city of Neverwinter and its environs</strong></em>. It features powers. It features ability scores. It features initiative. It features move actions, standard actions, and free actions. It features hit points. It features AC, Reflex, Fortitude, and Will defenses. It features <strong><em>dozens</em></strong> of other things that come to mind when one thinks of D&D.</p><p></p><p>How in the <strong><em>world</em></strong> is this "not an actual D&D product" to you?</p><p></p><p>In fact, you know what <strong><em>would</em></strong> be weird? If Heroes of Neverwinter <em>didn't</em> have the D&D name attached to it. That would be really odd, given how it's basically D&D.</p><p> </p><p><strong>Right. Back. At you.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannager, post: 5707989, member: 73683"] Are you freaking kidding me? Come on, Aberzanzorax. This review is like someone saying "So here's my review for this car: it said Porsche on the tail but it was actually a Ford, so 1.5/5.0," completely ignoring the question of [I][B]how good of a car is this car?[/B][/I] No. This is like asking "I'm not a big fan of your typical SUV. What does this SUV bring to the table that makes it different from the rest?" Nothing is more fun than a Vespa. None of those questions were irrelevant. Not a one. And [B][I]all of them[/I][/B] are more relevant than "How many times did their rules deviate from the standard 4e rules?" You understand how slapping the label "D&D" on Plants vs. Zombies and slapping the label "D&D" on Heroes of Neverwinter are two [B][I]very[/I][/B] different things, yes? Tell me you understand this. Again, Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara is one of the best-reviewed D&D games of all time. But here you are telling me you would have given it a terrible review score, because it's not enough like [B][I]real[/I][/B] D&D for you. And again, this is irrelevant. If you gave [I]Plants vs. Zombies D&D Edition [/I]an awful review for no other reason than that it had the label "D&D" tacked on, you'd also be branded as an awful reviewer. The fact that it wouldn't really have anything to do with D&D might warrant a cautionary note in the review (again, something like "If you're looking for a faithful Dungeons & Dragons experience, look elsewhere. This is a Plants vs. Zombies game. But if you're curious as to whether [I]Plants vs. Zombies D&D Edition[/I] is an enjoyable game, read on.") To make the thesis of your review "This isn't enough like real D&D, even though it at no point tries to convince you that it's real D&D!" is to completely miss the point of a game review. If you think Heroes of Neverwinter had the D&D brand attached to it as a "trick", you're [B][I]straight up delusional[/I][/B]. This is a D&D game. This is not Starfox Adventures. I'm sorry, [I][B]what[/B][/I]? Heroes of Neverwinter features D&D classes. It features D&D races. It features monsters. It features magic items. It features dungeons. It features dragons. It features adventures. It features [I][B]the city of Neverwinter and its environs[/B][/I]. It features powers. It features ability scores. It features initiative. It features move actions, standard actions, and free actions. It features hit points. It features AC, Reflex, Fortitude, and Will defenses. It features [B][I]dozens[/I][/B] of other things that come to mind when one thinks of D&D. How in the [B][I]world[/I][/B] is this "not an actual D&D product" to you? In fact, you know what [B][I]would[/I][/B] be weird? If Heroes of Neverwinter [I]didn't[/I] have the D&D name attached to it. That would be really odd, given how it's basically D&D. [B]Right. Back. At you.[/B] [/QUOTE]
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