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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Spell" data-source="post: 2496588" data-attributes="member: 19718">yes, because i could use the new settings.not anymore, because i don't really like the system that much, and it requires some serious conversion to make it work with older matherial (in this regard, i wish it was much more derivative...)yes, because the new system was derivative from the old one, i could use the old books i had without much conversion (i checked the reviews looking for that, specifically).no, and no.and what's the problem? some of them were supposed to be derivative. some of them offer much more in terms of flavour and setting to be very very enjoyable despite being essentially the same game system with a new dress.i mean that i'm not buying a game that has:1. a vanilla flavoured medieval europe setting with a little addition of a chaos and demonic theme2. a game system that is obviuosly derivative from another, which comes accorss from being a lot more flexible3. a game system whose bestiary is obviously overpriced when compared with the market standard.that was my idea of warhammer 2nd edition after reading the reviews.fortunately, i do have the books, i can tell you that:1. the setting is anything but medieval or reinassance europe + a demon or two.2. if warhammer 2nd edition is derivative from a source, that would be its 1st edition (which is a good thing, because the first edition is out of print, and because the old gamers that got the old book can still make some good use out of them3. the bestiary is pricey (like 99% of RPG books out there... i don't care if they spend a lot in production... as long as i'm concerned, they could give me a cheap pdf file with no flashy fonts and no art, if the price would drop A LOT!), BUT it's also great to give the GM and the players more idea of how the setting actually is, AND it really rocks as a bestiary in its own regard.maybe i should've made my point clearer?which, in a way, it's fair... well, ok, it's not, but it's understandable.having said that, you can't really blame other people to have that attitude when some people here don't act differently. i wonder if there would have been such an outcry, in these boards, if somebody was attacking, say, sandy petersen...i very much doubt so!</blockquote>

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