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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 795164" data-attributes="member: 3929">Hey BillWith SS in front of me, here I go...Starting Point:Lesser Werewolf has an ECL of +3-You give GW +3 HD: +3 ECL-Quiet Contemplation: 3rd level characters have access to Calm Emotions, +0 ECL-Detect Lycanthrope: similar to the spell Detect Evil, but this ability is usable at will, so +1 ECL. Although Paladins have it too...-Racial Memory: Similar to the Bardic Knowledge ability, with severe limitation (4 hour duration). +0 ECL-Trigger Change: I have no idea if it's an ECL raise or not.-Invisibility to Lycanthrope: Similar to Invisibility to Undead, available at level 1, but with effects like Improved Invisibility, available at level 7. For Konnie, +0 ECL-Silver Claws: This follows from all animals Natural Weapons, dependent on their DR. Actually the claws should be considered +2 for getting through DR. +0 ECL-DR Increase: From 15/Silver to 15/+2 or silver. I don't know. I'm going to say +0 ECL because it's my character.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Might this change when 3.5 DR rules come out? If it reverts to 15/silver then +0 ECL.-Increased Natural Armor: +0 ECL. Only Natural Armors that exceed +5 merit an ECL increase.-Darkvision in Wolf Form Only: +0 ECL. Dwarves and Half-orcs get it for free.-Alignment Restriction: Don't know. Paladins get it. -1/2 ECL?-Healing from Form: Don't know. Although Werewolves have this ability, so it shouldn't matter in this evaluation.-Multiple Creature Types: Can be good or bad. Don't know. I think the type should remain Shapeshifter for all three forms to make it easy. It is good flavor.The Grand Total: +7 ECL (with Werewolf Template Included). The easiest way to get it down to +3 ECL is to remove the extra HD, and limit the Detect Lycanthrope ability. There are a few gray areas though, with Trigger Change, Multiple Types, and the DR/ Silver Claws. But that's a base ECL evaluation.</blockquote>

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