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<blockquote data-quote="Mystaros" data-source="post: 4300342" data-attributes="member: 3921"><p>Here are my predictions from August 5, 2006:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.enworld.org/showpost.php?p=2990924&postcount=407" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/showpost.php?p=2990924&postcount=407</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>I was way off on that... but then, I felt then and still feel now that they missed the sales curve and should have skipped 3.5 and gone directly to 4E in 2005.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>Though they still insist that miniatures are not necessary to play 4E, anyone who has actually read the combat rules must disagree!</p><p></p><p></p><p>Off here too on their marketing plans; while 4E should be all about acquiring a newer, younger audience, the marketing and sales plan is completely reversed in that they decided to push for the highest return on existing players before ever going after the newer players. This is odd, as the game itself is designed entirely from the perspective of the newer players even though the books are hardly new-player-friendly!</p><p></p><p>Of course, I have as yet to see any reason to change my belief that the 4E marketing plan is either a bad marketing plan gone worse or a terrible marketing plan well executed...</p><p></p><p>I nailed it as far as PHBs being all about character builds. But then, that was like predicting rain in Seattle...</p><p></p><p></p><p>From my reading of the books so far, this seems pretty close to what they did, save for the optional nature of the DM. "No secrets" is right on, as all the magic items are in the PHB. 4E very much strikes me as Talisman/Warhammer Quest/Descent on steroids. And the DMG emphasizes 4 to 6 hour sessions...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Dunno yet if the fame of the characters will play a part, but organized play on DDI and with the new Living FR are a strong focus.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Bingo.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think the guys at WotC had this attitude, then the Hasbro suits came in and said, "We need to crush 3E OGL" because, well, they are pointy-hair-boss types, and so the whole 4E GSL situation descended into a fiasco.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mystaros, post: 4300342, member: 3921"] Here are my predictions from August 5, 2006: [url]http://www.enworld.org/showpost.php?p=2990924&postcount=407[/url] I was way off on that... but then, I felt then and still feel now that they missed the sales curve and should have skipped 3.5 and gone directly to 4E in 2005. Though they still insist that miniatures are not necessary to play 4E, anyone who has actually read the combat rules must disagree! Off here too on their marketing plans; while 4E should be all about acquiring a newer, younger audience, the marketing and sales plan is completely reversed in that they decided to push for the highest return on existing players before ever going after the newer players. This is odd, as the game itself is designed entirely from the perspective of the newer players even though the books are hardly new-player-friendly! Of course, I have as yet to see any reason to change my belief that the 4E marketing plan is either a bad marketing plan gone worse or a terrible marketing plan well executed... I nailed it as far as PHBs being all about character builds. But then, that was like predicting rain in Seattle... From my reading of the books so far, this seems pretty close to what they did, save for the optional nature of the DM. "No secrets" is right on, as all the magic items are in the PHB. 4E very much strikes me as Talisman/Warhammer Quest/Descent on steroids. And the DMG emphasizes 4 to 6 hour sessions... Dunno yet if the fame of the characters will play a part, but organized play on DDI and with the new Living FR are a strong focus. Bingo. I think the guys at WotC had this attitude, then the Hasbro suits came in and said, "We need to crush 3E OGL" because, well, they are pointy-hair-boss types, and so the whole 4E GSL situation descended into a fiasco. [/QUOTE]
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