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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5004337" data-attributes="member: 57383">Still seems a bit on the big side for a "basic" Huge shark, so I'll stick to my preference for around 20 feet and 4000 pounds for such a beast.One problem to bear in mind is that many of the weights quoted for large animals are likely to be estimates. Unless you have a set of industrial-grade scales handy, it's exceedingly difficult to weigh animals as large as great whites or orcas. Some of those figures seem a little dubious. From my limited reading 3 tons (metric) is a reasonably average weight for a female orca of about 6 metres (20 feet) long, and its quite possible to have 2400 pound white shark 15-16 feet long. While I certainly think orcas are somewhat stockier than great whites, my suspicion is that there's some overlap in sizes & weights - i.e. some chunky 16 foot Great White probably weigh the same as slim 16 foot orcas.Similarly a 32 foot 11 ton Orca is not that far off from your projected 35 foot 11.97 (short) ton "Alf Dean" scale Great White. It would appear to me that such a big orca would equate to an individual with a lot of HD Advancement in 3E D&D terms. The SRD orca advances to Gargantuan, so I would not feel many pangs of guilt making a shark of similar size Gargantuan as well.As for Gargantuan sharks, obviously that's unrealistic for any living species with the exception of whale sharks (and even that would be an "Advanced" specimen in 3E terms, with an average Rhincodon typus being Huge sized and with fewer Hit Dice). I'd probably start Gargantuan sharks somewhere around a nice round 40 feet in length.Anyhow, I'll probably post a few new dinosaurs soon, so we can start arguing about something else.<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/angel.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":angel:" title="Angel    :angel:" data-shortname=":angel:" /></blockquote>

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