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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5022202" data-attributes="member: 57383">Well their speed looks acceptable to me (60 ft. with the Run feat works out about 35 mph, which is 80% the speed of an ostrich, so seems OK for a speedy avian predatory dinosaur).I was thinking about adding a racial bonus to Balance and Climb checks, since their rod-like tail and grasping hands & sickle-toes mean they're pretty well equipped for those skills, but I don't want to overload them with boosts, since they're already quite tough for their size.For "regular" maniraptors I'll just start by extending their stats to cover the full range of known sizes, from the size of a weasel (the Diminutive Epidexipteryx) to Large (Utahraptor) and then add Very Large and Huge animals to represent raptors of exaggerated size. The smallest maniraptors' stats can also serve as hatchlings of bigger species, of course.EDIT: Oh, and I would probably tweak their Constitution down a bit. They may be powerful, but I think a Utahraptor /Megaraptor should be a bit more fragile than a Tyrannosaurus, unlike the SRD versions which both have Con 21.EDITED EDIT: Oh yes, and I was toying with the idea of changing their special attacks to change them to a grapple-and-talons strategy, maybe with their foreclaws as their primary attack with Improved Grab, followed by a claw-rake attack with their talons? Not sure whether I'd cut off the Pounce or not, I'm tempted to give them pounce-and-grab like the SRD big cats.I also wonder whether their grapple modifier is high enough, if Deinonychus hunted Tenontosaurus in packs as some have theorized, they'll need a grapple modifier good enough to give them a decent chance of using their killing claws in a clinch.Hmm, a SRD Deinonychus is 4HD Str 17, although I'm thinking of cutting it down to Str 15 to make a realistically sized (~125 lb, 12 feet) Deinonychus as opposed to the 300 lb 16 feet SRD version. That'd be Grapple +7 or +6.A Tenontosaurus is 2000-4500 pounds, so is probably at the upper range of the Large size, say around 6HD and Str 25, which works out at Grapple +16. A 9-10 point difference means a medium 'raptor would have little chance of getting a hold and using their killing talon effectively (assuming I'm changing them to a secondary attack or claw-rake, as mentioned above).Maybe give dromaeosaurs Improved Grapple as a bonus feat?</blockquote>

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