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<blockquote data-quote="auburn2" data-source="post: 8186931" data-attributes="member: 6855259"><p>The rules cover these pretty clearly. These are all right in the PHB. Hide is an action, not a condition. Either you take the action or you don't. If you do not take the hide action you are not hidden.</p><p></p><p>1. Yes as long as you are obscured ... or have an ability that lets you hide being partially obscured (halfling, wood elf). Being in combat does not change that (although it can be difficult to be obscured in combat).</p><p></p><p>2. Hide is clearly an action in the PHB. If you are a fighter with action surge you can use it to hide after you attack with your normal action. If you are hasted you can use it as your second action after you attack. If you are a Rogue you can use it as a bonus action after you are attacked. Other cases, no you can not hide, or take any action, on the same turn you take the attack action. You can move and obscure yourself after taking the attack action, but that is different than taking the hide action. You are obscured but you are not hidden. If you are still obscured on your next turn you can take an action to hide if you want.</p><p></p><p>3. Invisible is a condition like frightened or prone. Effects of the condition are clearly spelled out in the PHB on p291. and it adresses hiding specifically - "for the purposes of hiding the creature is heavily obscured". This means a Rogue can drink a potion of invisibility and then immediately use his bonus action to hide right where he is standing. A fighter could do the same and then use his action surge to hide. Another character could turn himself invisible and hide on his next turn (assuming he is still invisible) but he would not be hidden for the round between the time he drank the potion and took the hide action. People can not see him, but he is not hidden either.</p><p></p><p>4. Clear in the rules: A. When you fail a hide check vs passive perception. B. when someone takes a search action and beats your hide. C. When you are no longer fully obscured (if you move out from behind what is obscuring you). With respect to C - if you are hiding behind something and move out from it you are no longer obscured. If you are being obscured by invisibility, darkness or fog cloud then you will still be obscured and hidden until you attack.</p><p></p><p>5. Search action p.193 PHB. Enemy can take the search action to compare perception against your hide roll. If successful you are no longer hidden. How aggressive he is has nothing to do with it, either he takes the search action and tries to find you or he does not. Alternatively he can launch an attack against where you might be (without knowing). If you are not there it is a miss, if you are there he gets an attack roll with disadvantage. There is even an example of this in the PHB I believe.</p><p></p><p>6. If you did not take the hide action you are not hidden.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="auburn2, post: 8186931, member: 6855259"] The rules cover these pretty clearly. These are all right in the PHB. Hide is an action, not a condition. Either you take the action or you don't. If you do not take the hide action you are not hidden. 1. Yes as long as you are obscured ... or have an ability that lets you hide being partially obscured (halfling, wood elf). Being in combat does not change that (although it can be difficult to be obscured in combat). 2. Hide is clearly an action in the PHB. If you are a fighter with action surge you can use it to hide after you attack with your normal action. If you are hasted you can use it as your second action after you attack. If you are a Rogue you can use it as a bonus action after you are attacked. Other cases, no you can not hide, or take any action, on the same turn you take the attack action. You can move and obscure yourself after taking the attack action, but that is different than taking the hide action. You are obscured but you are not hidden. If you are still obscured on your next turn you can take an action to hide if you want. 3. Invisible is a condition like frightened or prone. Effects of the condition are clearly spelled out in the PHB on p291. and it adresses hiding specifically - "for the purposes of hiding the creature is heavily obscured". This means a Rogue can drink a potion of invisibility and then immediately use his bonus action to hide right where he is standing. A fighter could do the same and then use his action surge to hide. Another character could turn himself invisible and hide on his next turn (assuming he is still invisible) but he would not be hidden for the round between the time he drank the potion and took the hide action. People can not see him, but he is not hidden either. 4. Clear in the rules: A. When you fail a hide check vs passive perception. B. when someone takes a search action and beats your hide. C. When you are no longer fully obscured (if you move out from behind what is obscuring you). With respect to C - if you are hiding behind something and move out from it you are no longer obscured. If you are being obscured by invisibility, darkness or fog cloud then you will still be obscured and hidden until you attack. 5. Search action p.193 PHB. Enemy can take the search action to compare perception against your hide roll. If successful you are no longer hidden. How aggressive he is has nothing to do with it, either he takes the search action and tries to find you or he does not. Alternatively he can launch an attack against where you might be (without knowing). If you are not there it is a miss, if you are there he gets an attack roll with disadvantage. There is even an example of this in the PHB I believe. 6. If you did not take the hide action you are not hidden. [/QUOTE]
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