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<blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 8188167">The new Unearthed Arcana blurs the &quot;race&quot; definition.&nbsp; If you choose Dhampir you lose the racial modifiers from your former race.&nbsp; But you still get to choose a language and whether your are small or medium.&nbsp; In other words, your (former) race is relegated to pure roleplaying, not mechanics.You state that as a definite truth, but it can go either way.Svirfneblin aren't just elves who grew up in the Underdark. Likewise, &quot;Forest Dweller&quot; could, by definition, mean that you are of a sub-race that has lived in the forest so long that your branch has adapted.&nbsp; Or magically changed themselves.&nbsp; Or ate the wrong mushroom.&nbsp; Whatever.See above.Huh.&nbsp; All I was able to discern is that you don't like it.Ah, this gets back to the &quot;must have mechanics or it's not real&quot; argument.Using flavor (and other chargen choices, if you so choose) for the Orc.&nbsp; Mechanics for the forest dweller.Actually, it would increase creativity and diversity of choice (assuming equal numbers of choices).&nbsp; It's simple combinatorics.&nbsp; Multiply all possible races times all possible lineages.&nbsp; You can't currently play a Dark Hobbit for example.You should re-read how you phrased some of your responses before you start accusing other people of being &quot;rude&quot;.If your objection is not that race must come with mechanics in order to count as race, then I genuinely do not understand what your objection is.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Guest 6801328, post: 8188167"] The new Unearthed Arcana blurs the "race" definition. If you choose Dhampir you lose the racial modifiers from your former race. But you still get to choose a language and whether your are small or medium. In other words, your (former) race is relegated to pure roleplaying, not mechanics. You state that as a definite truth, but it can go either way. Svirfneblin aren't just elves who grew up in the Underdark. Likewise, "Forest Dweller" could, by definition, mean that you are of a sub-race that has lived in the forest so long that your branch has adapted. Or magically changed themselves. Or ate the wrong mushroom. Whatever. See above. Huh. All I was able to discern is that you don't like it. Ah, this gets back to the "must have mechanics or it's not real" argument. Using flavor (and other chargen choices, if you so choose) for the Orc. Mechanics for the forest dweller. Actually, it would increase creativity and diversity of choice (assuming equal numbers of choices). It's simple combinatorics. Multiply all possible races times all possible lineages. You can't currently play a Dark Hobbit for example. You should re-read how you phrased some of your responses before you start accusing other people of being "rude". If your objection is not that race must come with mechanics in order to count as race, then I genuinely do not understand what your objection is. [/QUOTE]

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