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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 8189235" data-attributes="member: 15700">Yes, someone picking up the MM and seeing the elf entry would assume any non-PC elf to be CG. Because that's what the book told them.totally wrong.  When that book came out in 1979, people assumed orcs to be evil because that's what they were literally described as in the book.  They didn't assume they were evil because they were racist, they assumed they were evil because we were all told they were evil.  As part of the rules.You're arguing the absurd, and at the very least arguing from a disingenuous position of using today's modern lens to apply to gamers in 1979.  In 1979, and into the early 80s (and even longer), people treated orcs as universally evil because that's what the game labeled them as.  A one off exception that came out years later doesn't change that.  Nor do rules changes in 1993 change how they were treated in 1979 or 1983 or whenever.You're arguing that the only reason gamers back then treated orcs to be evil was because they were racist, and it is nonsense.  And if that's your position, then we have nothing to discuss going forward.</blockquote>