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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mannahnin" data-source="post: 9883633" data-attributes="member: 7026594">Oof, yes, I see that Monk table entry now. We used Monks so little that I can't remember the last time I read that. Whereas the broader question of when 3/2 attacks actually happen comes up immediately from 1st level for Fighters with Weapon Specialization, so it was always important to know. In both 1E and 2E the rules only tell you in examples: 1E DMG p63, under Initiative for Creatures with Multiple Attack Routines:, the second to last sentence "A 12th level fighter is allowed attack routines twice in every odd numbered melee round, for example, and this moves up to three per round if a haste spell is cast upon the fighter." The equivalent section in the 2E PH, Multiple Attacks and Initiative on p95 unfortunately leaves out the example, and so we're left wondering until a couple of sections later, Attacking with Two Weapons on p96, which thankfully does give an example at the end: "The use of two weapons enables the character to make one additional attack each combat round, with the second weapon. The character gains only one additional attack each round, regardless of the number of attacks he may normally be allowed. Thus a warrior able to attack 3/2 (once in the first round and twice in the second) can attack 5/2 (twice in the first round and three times in the second). Interestingly the 1E rules lay it out as a general rule for all "creatures with multiple attack routines", so I could certainly see an argument for the DMG rule superseding the PH rule for Monks. But I can also easily see folks going with the more conservative/lower-power ruling, or saying the note under the Monk table takes precedence over the DMG rule on the basis of specific exceptions trumping general rules.</blockquote>

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