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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7486646" data-attributes="member: 4937">It is necessary for each of the great wyrms to be scary in their own way.&nbsp; Yes, the potential damage of both dragons is the same, but the red's breath weapon is a cone that is likely to catch the whole party and the red does a ton more damage in melee and has a swallow whole attack at that size.&nbsp; On the other hand, the black has better AC and is as sneaky as a third level thief, and you are likely fighting it in water.By about 20 average damage (225 vs 205), yes.&nbsp; Although, this is somewhat mitigated by the fact that if you are able to equip yourself with some degree of resistance to cold, it applies to all five breathe weapons whereas only a very high level party with access to the most diverse magic could manage to get resistance to all of Tiamat's breath weapons.&nbsp; You don't think this Tiamat is scary enough?&nbsp; If I upgrade all her breath weapons to huge size, then her expected damage of 255 is nearly as high as her absurd RAW expected damage (328).&nbsp;&nbsp; On the other hand, this Tiamat has 3 times the hit points and is profoundly more durable, living up to Sheila's famous claim: &quot;...you can't fight Tiamat, she's indestructible.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7486646, member: 4937"] It is necessary for each of the great wyrms to be scary in their own way. Yes, the potential damage of both dragons is the same, but the red's breath weapon is a cone that is likely to catch the whole party and the red does a ton more damage in melee and has a swallow whole attack at that size. On the other hand, the black has better AC and is as sneaky as a third level thief, and you are likely fighting it in water. By about 20 average damage (225 vs 205), yes. Although, this is somewhat mitigated by the fact that if you are able to equip yourself with some degree of resistance to cold, it applies to all five breathe weapons whereas only a very high level party with access to the most diverse magic could manage to get resistance to all of Tiamat's breath weapons. You don't think this Tiamat is scary enough? If I upgrade all her breath weapons to huge size, then her expected damage of 255 is nearly as high as her absurd RAW expected damage (328). On the other hand, this Tiamat has 3 times the hit points and is profoundly more durable, living up to Sheila's famous claim: "...you can't fight Tiamat, she's indestructible." [/QUOTE]

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