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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7488192" data-attributes="member: 4937">Oh, that.&nbsp; That's on purpose.&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks for the nice table showing the range of breath weapons available to 10HD dragons.&nbsp;&nbsp; It's very useful, but I'm pretty much happy with it.In a nutshell, the problem you are going to hit if you switch to making breath weapon depend on HD, is that you probably will need to convert magic resistance, AC, and possibly even the special abilities to depend on HD as well.&nbsp; Extend your table of 10HD dragons out to cover these things as well, and you'll see what I mean.What your table serves to demonstrate is that amongst dragons of equal size, it is the older dragon that tends to be the more puissant and dangerous.&nbsp;&nbsp; And I'm completely OK with that.&nbsp; That is what I want.&nbsp; I think it makes for a good game, so that even a party that has defeated an adult red, still must respect even a 'lowly' white wyrm despite it being a similar size beast.&nbsp; Yes, it makes for a more complex hierarchy compared to the simple model of this race of dragons is strictly better than this one, which is better than this one, etc. but I'm OK with that complexity.&nbsp;&nbsp; I think it makes for a better deeper game with a richer variety of challenges.&nbsp; You can have slightly smaller dragons with tougher defenses and a more dangerous breath, and larger dragons with more potent physical attacks but weaker defenses and slightly less fearsome breath.&nbsp;&nbsp; Switching everything to HD means you might as well have one dragon entry with dragons differing only by the energy type of their breath weapon.I am still somewhat intrigued with the idea of a adding a bonus amount of damage to the breath weapon based on HD, and like dave2008, thought that was your best idea.&nbsp; In particular, I very much liked the numbers it was producing for the youngest sorts of dragons (where a small bump for the larger members of the same age category makes some sense).&nbsp; But I haven't worked out exactly what all the implications of that are or whether I can make the math work and whether even if I could it would be worth the small increase in complexity.&nbsp; I may have to break out another excel worksheet and play with it.And this desire is based on what?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7488192, member: 4937"] Oh, that. That's on purpose. Thanks for the nice table showing the range of breath weapons available to 10HD dragons. It's very useful, but I'm pretty much happy with it. In a nutshell, the problem you are going to hit if you switch to making breath weapon depend on HD, is that you probably will need to convert magic resistance, AC, and possibly even the special abilities to depend on HD as well. Extend your table of 10HD dragons out to cover these things as well, and you'll see what I mean. What your table serves to demonstrate is that amongst dragons of equal size, it is the older dragon that tends to be the more puissant and dangerous. And I'm completely OK with that. That is what I want. I think it makes for a good game, so that even a party that has defeated an adult red, still must respect even a 'lowly' white wyrm despite it being a similar size beast. Yes, it makes for a more complex hierarchy compared to the simple model of this race of dragons is strictly better than this one, which is better than this one, etc. but I'm OK with that complexity. I think it makes for a better deeper game with a richer variety of challenges. You can have slightly smaller dragons with tougher defenses and a more dangerous breath, and larger dragons with more potent physical attacks but weaker defenses and slightly less fearsome breath. Switching everything to HD means you might as well have one dragon entry with dragons differing only by the energy type of their breath weapon. I am still somewhat intrigued with the idea of a adding a bonus amount of damage to the breath weapon based on HD, and like dave2008, thought that was your best idea. In particular, I very much liked the numbers it was producing for the youngest sorts of dragons (where a small bump for the larger members of the same age category makes some sense). But I haven't worked out exactly what all the implications of that are or whether I can make the math work and whether even if I could it would be worth the small increase in complexity. I may have to break out another excel worksheet and play with it. And this desire is based on what? [/QUOTE]

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