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<blockquote data-quote="OneWinged4ngel" data-source="post: 4464454" data-attributes="member: 37292">Because it helps morale and sets marching pace.&nbsp; When they suddenly didn't have people marching in lines, they mostly got rid of the pipers, and they never used such people for skirmishes, which is what D&amp;D is about.&nbsp; And those people were NPCs with a few ranks in Perform, not PC class heroes like the D&amp;D cast or any of the heroic bards we see in myth and legend.&nbsp; Playing an uplifting tune just doesn't cut it as a replacement for &quot;hurling an 80 foot inferno at people 3 times in six seconds.&quot;&nbsp; And you think that justifies that being a primary role in a skirmish group amongst Conan and Merlin and whoever else?I would seriously just roll that in with the Perform skill, and I have done so in my own fixes (And why shouldn't it?&nbsp; As is, Tumble lets you perform for money just as well as Perform does, except that Tumble actually has a use in combat too.&nbsp; Not to mention I made that skill even better by making it Acrobatics).&nbsp; The power of &quot;being good at music&quot; is just the Perform skill.&nbsp; The power of music magic is worth being a PC class.&nbsp; Lies!&nbsp; At least, as written.&nbsp; Bards require specialization to be effective in D&amp;D.&nbsp; If you want an actual jack of all trades, there's the Cleric or the Artificer hanging out over there.&nbsp; The Bard is a specialist, and if you don't want him to be a specialist, you need to completely rewrite the class.&nbsp; Just because WotC says it's a Jack in the flavor text doesn't mean it's true.&nbsp; Only some bards.&nbsp; Others have other powers, like making water dance and kill people.&nbsp; No no no.&nbsp; The songs *are* the spells.&nbsp; Bards are the masters of music magic.&nbsp; Not guys who know music *and* magic.&nbsp; That's just a spellcaster with the perform skill.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="OneWinged4ngel, post: 4464454, member: 37292"] Because it helps morale and sets marching pace. When they suddenly didn't have people marching in lines, they mostly got rid of the pipers, and they never used such people for skirmishes, which is what D&D is about. And those people were NPCs with a few ranks in Perform, not PC class heroes like the D&D cast or any of the heroic bards we see in myth and legend. Playing an uplifting tune just doesn't cut it as a replacement for "hurling an 80 foot inferno at people 3 times in six seconds." And you think that justifies that being a primary role in a skirmish group amongst Conan and Merlin and whoever else? I would seriously just roll that in with the Perform skill, and I have done so in my own fixes (And why shouldn't it? As is, Tumble lets you perform for money just as well as Perform does, except that Tumble actually has a use in combat too. Not to mention I made that skill even better by making it Acrobatics). The power of "being good at music" is just the Perform skill. The power of music magic is worth being a PC class. Lies! At least, as written. Bards require specialization to be effective in D&D. If you want an actual jack of all trades, there's the Cleric or the Artificer hanging out over there. The Bard is a specialist, and if you don't want him to be a specialist, you need to completely rewrite the class. Just because WotC says it's a Jack in the flavor text doesn't mean it's true. Only some bards. Others have other powers, like making water dance and kill people. No no no. The songs *are* the spells. Bards are the masters of [I]music magic[/I]. Not guys who know music *and* magic. That's just a spellcaster with the perform skill. [/QUOTE]

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