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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 986890" data-attributes="member: 326">Re: Elemental CRsHi all! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Lot to get through...bear with me. Hey Yair! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Well WotC don't rate monsters properly, simple as that.However, the version of my CR/EL system you are reading is not quite perfect.Version 4 of my CR/EL pdf clarifies a number of issues and tweaks a number of rules.Anyway, I used V.4 and got the following:Small: 3.8 (3.5)Medium: 4.9 (4)Large: 9.85 (9)Huge: 15.5 (15)Greater: 18.45 (18)Elder: 20.8 (20) No. You are using WotC CR/EL for your party there.You have to convert the party to my system as well. For this you only need character level. Admittedly thats a problem a number of people have commented on, that its not obvious the party must also be converted. Version 4 sorts all this out.Well a Party of Four 6th-level characters will be P(arty)EL 11 A CR 9 (Large Earth Elemental) = EL 13.Therefore the Large Earth Elemental will represent a 'Tough' EL +2 encounter.A CR 15 (Huge Earth Elemental) = EL 16.Therefore the Huge Earth Elemental would represent a 'Difficult' EL +5 encounter...slightly harder than a 50/50 encounter.A CR 18 (Greater Earth Elemental) = EL 17.Therefore the Huge Earth Elemental would represent a 'Very Difficult' EL +6 encounter.A CR 20 (Elder Earth Elemental) = EL 18.Therefore the Huge Earth Elemental would represent a 'Very Difficult' EL +7 encounter.Of course none of these take into account Situational Modifiers which is something I expand and expound upon in Version 4.         That looks pretty accurate for Version 3, which I imagine you are using. +0.2Unfortunately I can't adjudicate every individual ability in the pdf. Try and discern if the ability you are rating is the equivalent of feat. Is it more powerful than a feat? Less Powerful? etc.Earth Mastery I gave -0.2 (although it could be +/-0), essentially its giving a +2 bonus but a -8 penalty. However the penalty is going to be applied perhaps 50% (for -0.2) or 25% (for +/-0) of the time; maybe even less - though it is something that could be exploited.Push +0.2.I am probably biased...that said Version 4 will rule. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />I am sure there will be many other people here that will give you a fair appraisal.</blockquote>

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