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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sylrae" data-source="post: 4523134" data-attributes="member: 48520">your solution is to take the cleric and make a compromise, and mine is to split it into two classes. I'm dropping paladin, cause I'm not fond of the idea of a good-only PRC, and I figure the battle-priest is close enough to a paladin (if good) that if they want a slightly more fighter emphasis they can multi into fighter. I dont give xp penalties for multiclassing, so the player wont be getting screwed (instead I give a free bonus feat for every 5 levels of the favored class, make them take the favored class via bonus, instead of penalty <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />)As for a healer cleric, either one could be a healer, they have access to alot of the same spells and domains, the difference is one has the emphasis on physical ability and the other on magic. (depends where the player wants the emphasis)Priest is a d4 HD, magic based class. they will be more like the original cleric in casting ability, with expanded spell list, a bit more wizard-like in spell damage.BattlePriest is d8 HD, melee-esque based class. They'll have a lower spell-per day count, and they might not be able to get all the way up to level 9 spells. maybe cap them at 7. Havent quite figured it out or balanced it yet.and for domains, I was thinking the majority of spells should come from a domain list, and have the smaller number be the general cleric spells. That specializes them.Obviously this means making new spell lists, but I'm okay with that.As for the Paladin, if you look at it and dissect it, you'll notice that a blackguard gets abilities mirroring the paladins. but the blackguard levels are condensed into 10 instead of 20. So pull oyut the evil blackguard abilities, substitute the appropriate paladin ability, and you have the Paladin PrC. I havent done an actual writeup because nobody in my games ever even WANTS to play a paladin so its had minimal importance.For Turn and what not, I dont want to make it domain based, but deity based. which means that which abilities you can get in place of turn/rebuke is dependent on which setting you play and which deities are available.</blockquote>

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