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Revised CRs/ECLs - Thread #3
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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 1114672" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hi kreynolds mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Apologies if that reads more terse than it was supposed to. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek! :o" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I suppose anything is possible. I must admit I find your confusion confusing. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>For Monsters (spell-like abilities):</p><p></p><p>Monster Manual 3.5; Chapter Six; Pages 303-304; Feats: </p><p></p><p>1. Empower Spell-like Ability</p><p>2. Quicken Spell-like Ability</p><p></p><p>These feats are also in Savage Species.</p><p></p><p>For Characters (spells):</p><p></p><p>Epic Level Handbook; Chapter One; Pages 50-51; Feats:</p><p></p><p>1. Automatic Quicken Spell</p><p>2. Automatic Silent Spell</p><p>3. Automatic Still Spell</p><p></p><p>Deities & Demigods; Chapter Two; Page 36; Salient Divine Ability:</p><p></p><p>1. Automatic Metamagic.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Possibly. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I totally do not comprehend what you are trying to do here, that isn't already outlined in the published rules.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How would it?</p><p></p><p>Even though that suggestion was for spell-like abilities (rather than spells - wherein you use feat equivalents) it would only be calculated once. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Both spell-like abilities or spells are already catered for within the current rules - typically under feats.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Surely it is of help unless you are contesting the feats validity (which I would understand since they are not balanced).</p><p></p><p>Personally I would say the ability rates equal to one additional feat per automatic spell slot.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 1114672, member: 326"] Hi kreynolds mate! :) Apologies if that reads more terse than it was supposed to. :o I suppose anything is possible. I must admit I find your confusion confusing. :confused: For Monsters (spell-like abilities): Monster Manual 3.5; Chapter Six; Pages 303-304; Feats: 1. Empower Spell-like Ability 2. Quicken Spell-like Ability These feats are also in Savage Species. For Characters (spells): Epic Level Handbook; Chapter One; Pages 50-51; Feats: 1. Automatic Quicken Spell 2. Automatic Silent Spell 3. Automatic Still Spell Deities & Demigods; Chapter Two; Page 36; Salient Divine Ability: 1. Automatic Metamagic. Possibly. I totally do not comprehend what you are trying to do here, that isn't already outlined in the published rules. How would it? Even though that suggestion was for spell-like abilities (rather than spells - wherein you use feat equivalents) it would only be calculated once. Both spell-like abilities or spells are already catered for within the current rules - typically under feats. Surely it is of help unless you are contesting the feats validity (which I would understand since they are not balanced). Personally I would say the ability rates equal to one additional feat per automatic spell slot. [/QUOTE]
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