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<blockquote data-quote="Zad" data-source="post: 654209" data-attributes="member: 90">No, I can't say &quot;Power attack&quot; if I'm an archer. And that's who this change is going to put the shaft to.DR 5? Sure I can live with that. But DR10 or 15?!? One of the things about archery is that you do low damage per shot, but you can get more attacks and get them to hit. This has ups and downs - great generally, problem against animated objects, etc.But my 18th level arcane archer (You remember that prestige class? the one that makes magic arrows on the fly as their biggest core ability and therefore can get by DR as an archer without other aids?) does 1d8+16 inside 30 feet for damage.&nbsp; So let's say average of four, that's 20 points. Which means I'm going to do 5 points to a big creature? (And at 18th level, you fight a lot of big creatures now don't you.) If I'm doing 5 points a shot, I may as well sit down and cook some stew because I'm going to be totally useless in combat. Sure if I know what's coming, I can have some XXX arrows, but honestly, most of the time a party has no idea what they'll be fighting. Do I buy an extra horse to carry around every wierd arrow known in the world? And what about that core ability of the class? Now it's just a little extra to hit and damag, and won't be enough when I really need it.This change is going to take established, developed characters (i.e. archers) and render them useless, and gut a core prestige class. I guess I should ask my DM if I can start rolling up a mage.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zad, post: 654209, member: 90"] No, I can't say "Power attack" if I'm an archer. And that's who this change is going to put the shaft to. DR 5? Sure I can live with that. But DR10 or 15?!? One of the things about archery is that you do low damage per shot, but you can get more attacks and get them to hit. This has ups and downs - great generally, problem against animated objects, etc. But my 18th level arcane archer (You remember that prestige class? the one that makes magic arrows on the fly as their biggest core ability and therefore can get by DR as an archer without other aids?) does 1d8+16 inside 30 feet for damage. So let's say average of four, that's 20 points. Which means I'm going to do 5 points to a big creature? (And at 18th level, you fight a lot of big creatures now don't you.) If I'm doing 5 points a shot, I may as well sit down and cook some stew because I'm going to be totally useless in combat. Sure if I know what's coming, I can have some XXX arrows, but honestly, most of the time a party has no idea what they'll be fighting. Do I buy an extra horse to carry around every wierd arrow known in the world? And what about that core ability of the class? Now it's just a little extra to hit and damag, and won't be enough when I really need it. This change is going to take established, developed characters (i.e. archers) and render them useless, and gut a core prestige class. I guess I should ask my DM if I can start rolling up a mage. [/QUOTE]

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