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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shalewind" data-source="post: 654833" data-attributes="member: 6146">I'm in agreement with Pielorinho here. First off, no change that the designers could have made is going to please everyone. 3E didn't please everyone, but it did a damn fine job. The same people are now working on your revised rules.In response to some of the issues: First off, that is a little harsh and more than a little insulting to the developers.Andy has said: "the R&D mantra for revised 3e, "do no harm." If there was something cool to change but it didn't really need to be done, it wasn't."These people CARE about what you the buyer THINK. TSR never did that. The new staff has taken the time to do things like, post to your board. Comments like this make me wonder why they care.And the Sky is not falling. But I am unimpressed with the reponse from these boards. Everyone wants to bash the new rules set without having seen it. Why not reserve judgement until you have all the facts. D20 works with balance by a collection of rules, not just one set. Saying things can be overcome by a cantrip... Who's to say they aren't revising that to? The truth is, no one knows the extent of the changes. I'm reserving judgement until I see the completed product, though I have faith that the staff did a damn good job (why? because they care enough to listen to me when I e-mail in and say I've had a problem with DR).And speaking of this little speck of information we have recieved (thank you Andy for clearing things up):Why would your fighter carry a "caddy"? He can't afford a bunch of weapons unless he takes away from his primary one. So he has a +4 bashing sword. Can he kill demons quick. Sure, using things like power attack and the like. Can the paladin and cleric with their holysilvered weapons do it better. Maybe, but perhaps they should be able to.And in response to the low damage weapons... I think it is a lot more likely that the treasure seeking rogue has a dagger for every monster than a barbarian having a greatsword for every occasion. "Hey guys, I got that <X Material> dagger hear... Let me sneak up on it, then you guys move in."And I think the over reaction to, ALL my weapons are worthless is a bit much. There aren't that many materials that are going to be applied to ALL monsters with DR. It's not like half the monsters are going to need some rare or unique weapon to hit. Silver and maybe like two others will probably be a "Standard". Remember guys, give the designers some credit. They have playtested this...And even if that new nifty critter needs a TrueFireCrystal blade to bypass it's awesome DR... Well that leaves two choices:1) Let's beat it with a cool strategy.2) Let's go on a quest to get the legendary TrueFireCrystal Sword.Options... Not restrictions... Anyone can pick apart new rules. Just like anyone can try and embrace them and work with them. Have a little faith guys. And don't panic when you haven't even seen all the rules yet.pax.</blockquote>

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