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<blockquote data-quote="Falanor" data-source="post: 661935" data-attributes="member: 2634">&quot;The current rules do NOT make that a reality and the new rules do little if anything at all to cover it.&quot; -- PetrosianActually that's incorrect.&nbsp; If you would look at the Pit Fiend's new stats, you'd notice that it isn't anything but a 15.&nbsp; If you can't penetrate that then you just ain't tryin'.&nbsp; And according to Andy Collins this is considered &quot;mighty&quot;, and how it keeps DR revised from being a hose job top fighters.&nbsp; After all, the Iron Golem won't have his +3/50 DR anymore.&nbsp; Sure it'll be tough to beat 'em, but it should have been that way to begin with.&quot;An intelligent fighter, and intelligent party, will prepare not for what they are CERTAIN is ahead of them but also for those things that they might encounter.&quot; -- PetrosianExactly how?&nbsp; What, do they have a Tuesday plan action as opposed to a Wedensday plan of action?&nbsp; If a party doesn't know how one day is going to be different from the next, then its going to be a bit difficult to actually do this.&quot;In a world where, for generations untold, dangerous threast exist and prey upon people who can only be hit by special materials weapons, where these are NECESSARY to combat them effectively, then those things would be part of that uncommon setting, not some abstract thing.&quot; -- PetrosianWhich is making the assumption that everyone knows how to defeat every beast.&nbsp; Just cause one person figured it out doesn't mean everyone instantly knows it as well.&nbsp; Sure there could be old wives tales about a Goblin being immune to silver on a Saturday at high noon, but that doesn't mean its true.&nbsp; As it is, knowledge about higher CR critters is supposed to be more difficult to attain, seeing as only certain people ever meet them and survive.&nbsp; Unless on your world there is a 'Daily Inquisitor' where adventurers report in and talk about the DR of the day, this really doesn't happen.&quot;Remember the scene where the weasel guy when facing the mummy pulls out the cross and utters the latin trying to ward him off, the pulls out the other holy symbols one at a time with their own phrase... thats the exact same type of thing.&quot; -- PetrosianAnd remember that none of them worked?&nbsp; Ever hear of Holy Symbols working something on a Mummy in ancient lore?&nbsp; No, you got a curse, treasure, and not much else.&nbsp; So why did he have all the Holy Symbols?&nbsp; What, did he expect to run into a Vampire?&nbsp; The only thing that did is that he spoke 'the slave tongue' and that's because the Mummy could utlize him for a moment.I think what Shalewind is tryin to get across with his 'big picture' statement is that we don't know what everything is going to be like so its rather fallacious.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Falanor, post: 661935, member: 2634"] "The current rules do NOT make that a reality and the new rules do little if anything at all to cover it." -- Petrosian Actually that's incorrect. If you would look at the Pit Fiend's new stats, you'd notice that it isn't anything but a 15. If you can't penetrate that then you just ain't tryin'. And according to Andy Collins this is considered "mighty", and how it keeps DR revised from being a hose job top fighters. After all, the Iron Golem won't have his +3/50 DR anymore. Sure it'll be tough to beat 'em, but it should have been that way to begin with. "An intelligent fighter, and intelligent party, will prepare not for what they are CERTAIN is ahead of them but also for those things that they might encounter." -- Petrosian Exactly how? What, do they have a Tuesday plan action as opposed to a Wedensday plan of action? If a party doesn't know how one day is going to be different from the next, then its going to be a bit difficult to actually do this. "In a world where, for generations untold, dangerous threast exist and prey upon people who can only be hit by special materials weapons, where these are NECESSARY to combat them effectively, then those things would be part of that uncommon setting, not some abstract thing." -- Petrosian Which is making the assumption that everyone knows how to defeat every beast. Just cause one person figured it out doesn't mean everyone instantly knows it as well. Sure there could be old wives tales about a Goblin being immune to silver on a Saturday at high noon, but that doesn't mean its true. As it is, knowledge about higher CR critters is supposed to be more difficult to attain, seeing as only certain people ever meet them and survive. Unless on your world there is a 'Daily Inquisitor' where adventurers report in and talk about the DR of the day, this really doesn't happen. "Remember the scene where the weasel guy when facing the mummy pulls out the cross and utters the latin trying to ward him off, the pulls out the other holy symbols one at a time with their own phrase... thats the exact same type of thing." -- Petrosian And remember that none of them worked? Ever hear of Holy Symbols working something on a Mummy in ancient lore? No, you got a curse, treasure, and not much else. So why did he have all the Holy Symbols? What, did he expect to run into a Vampire? The only thing that did is that he spoke 'the slave tongue' and that's because the Mummy could utlize him for a moment. I think what Shalewind is tryin to get across with his 'big picture' statement is that we don't know what everything is going to be like so its rather fallacious. [/QUOTE]

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