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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Technik4" data-source="post: 662625" data-attributes="member: 7211">Youve got to be kidding....On DR: I dont think its going to be some incredibly complex formula to figure out a creature's revised DR. Like if it was a fiend, the material will be holysilver or silver. So we can assume:Lemure: DR 5/silver (as written in MM)Imp: DR 5/silver (as written)Osyluth: DR 5/silver (changed +1 to silver)Kyton: DR 10/holysilver Hellcat: DR 10/holysilverBarbazu: DR 5/silverErinyes: DR 5/silverHamatula: DR 5/silverCornugon: DR 10/holysilverGelugon: DR 10/holysilverPit Fiend: DR 15/holysilverSo, 5 or 10 damage reduction = 520  damage reduction = 1025 or higher = 15+1 or silver = silver+2 or higher = holysilverNote, this is just something I made in a couple minutes, the point being Im sure in one of the 3 revised books they will go into "Converting DR" from 3e to 3.5e. I'm equally sure it wont be difficult.On GMW: Please. Dont insult anyone here, GMW is so much more than a spell to bypass DR. It makes archers sick, prevents fighters from needing any enhancements beyond +1 and sure striking, and lasts way too long.On Cheap: Oh please. Whats your golfbag going to have? A +1 version of every material weapon? Then youll just about be able to afford +1 Armor and some potions. Its a game of choices, why dont you start statting up some fighters who buy HHH and a bunch of different weapons from different materials. It just wont fly. You might have 2 decent magic weapons, and a few masterwork versions, but at high levels youre probably better off having one maxed magic weapon with mods and a decent alternate, plus a ranged weapon. I dont think thats much more than people have now.On Low DR: Whats the point? Are you kidding? You are arguing both sides of the argument. Either DR is so low that it doesnt matter to peasants (and therefore fighters) so you just use a couple weapons and suck up the few points per round, OR its a big pain and everyone will need a golf bag. Think of it like this, any +5 weapon essentially "negates" 5 DR. So your 20th level fighter has a +5 Flaming Keen Longsword. Its made out of Cold Iron lets say. You gonna switch to your golfbag to fight lyncanthropes, or accept a few points of damage less per round? If you accept the damage, that monsters power is keeping him alive a little longer, especially if its a werewolf with 15 class levels or something. See how the DR means something? In regular play, you just negate his DR because you have a magic weapon. And really, most characters get a magic weapon of appropriate level to deal with the monsters because DMs dont want to be too "hard" on the players. You wont have to worry "Oh my players havent persued silver weapons, maybe they cant take this werewolf" because his DR isnt too powerful, it will aid him in the fight, and the characters may afterward think about looking up some ways to fight lyncanthropes more effectively, but thats about it. On How many Materials: I said we only know about 2. These are actually referred to in the phb and MM now, they just dont come into play much. What other materials? Well adamantine, mythril, and dark wood are already referred to. Then theres the differentiation between slashing/piercing/blunt weapons. Theres a lot of room for different weapons even if the only actually add cold iron, silver, and holysilver. Plus theres the subject of "blessed weapons". I think this makes for plenty of options, and I think the whole golfbag scenario is still negated by PC wealth per level.As far as your fantasy heroes, those swords are all at least minor artifacts. Who knows what artifacts will look like in 3.5? Regardless they are powerful enough weapons to still knock the crap out of things even if they do have DR. DR is an ability that can defray not having a huge hit die for some creatures, and coupled with regeneration or fast healing is still powerful.As far as running away if you dont have the right material? Yeah right. Im a 10th level fighter and get caught up in a den of wererats. Am I gonna run away with my +2 flaming greatsword or start taking names? Yeah, its not silver, but hopefully Im not alone. I may not take the spotlight this fight, but so WHAT. Groups that work as a team are always more successful than those made up of power-gamers looking to tweak out their characters. And guess which one most resembles fantasy novels?As I said earlier, you arent forced to buy anything. If you are the DM, use the SRD as you please and change what you like. No one is going to force you to buy anything. If you are a player, the DMs rules go. I cant think of many dms that would let a fighter run around with a golfbag (or sack as the case may be). Suck it up, now there are things to be afraid of besides will saves.Technik</blockquote>

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