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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Technik4" data-source="post: 665854" data-attributes="member: 7211">SheeshWell, I have been trying to stick to the subject of DR. How the DR relates to the balance of the fighting classes, especially the "fighter", and the respective balance between that class and the others in the phb. While taking slights against me by imagining things beyond the realm of said discussion may be gratifying, you arent really contributing either (12d6 fireballs..etc).I consider myself a fairly intelligent person, hence when I "read between the lines" or infer based on numerous posts, Im not indulging in "pretend-time", rather I'm looking at the bulk of what you said. You can imagine the difference as wide as you want.The thread is about the Revised DRs and we all take "might-be"s into account merely by speaking about something we dont know the entirety of. You think silver "might-be" priced exactly as it is now, I think it "might-be" a lot more expensive. Ive responded to what I think will happen in your case (silver weapons at 5x the cost in phb (based on silver dagger being 5x as expensive)) but you wont even consider mine. Please, I dont want to hear anymore fireball fantasies, if you want, you can start a thread about that.Based on what we know we can't draw very conclusive arguments for or against a "golf-bag" fighter since D&D 3e is very much linked to your wealth. A 20th level fighter stripped of gear is not fit to take on challenges as if he were a 20th level fighter. In the same vein, if we can't determine the likelihood of poeple being able to cover all the bases when it comes to weapon buying we technically shouldnt even be talking about it (according to you) since we dont "know" the prices.We do know that DR values have been drastically reduced across the board. We do know that an upper value of 15 has been set for non-epic play.We dont know that players (munchkins) will be able to afford a golfbag.We do know that the standard classes that have to fight these DRs are weakened whilst fighting against them. We also know that they can still be effective, in a myriad of ways. There already exists a cantrip which can change the material of weapons, thus negating DR/silver to some extent.Your whole point is ... ? You want to keep pretending about golfbags or talk about what we know? I was prepared to indulge you, but if you cant offer the same respect, thats a shame.As far as proposed prices, I was just pulling numbers out of my head. If a 1,500 gp special material out of MoF (a high-magic campaign) only gives you +1 elemental damage, or +1 damage against a specific DR, then it is not beyond the realm of possibility for 1/3 the price you can penetrate a certain DR. I am speaking from a rules perspective, not a "blacksmith making weapons" perspective.Technik</blockquote>

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