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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shalewind" data-source="post: 665993" data-attributes="member: 6146">Ah-ha! Methinks I see were the “anti-designer DR” side is coming from now. Amazing what taking a long breather will do. And as it is getting a little toasty in hear might I suggest everyone just calm down a little.Let me clarify a few things that I have now realized. Petrosian isn’t looking for new ways to be a Munchkin, nor is he a power-gamer. He isn’t trying to argue that the new rules upset the balance of the system (to my knowledge) nor do they create a large problem.He is upset for the simple reason that this allows new areas for the Munchkins to prosper and encourages a more Munchkinesque viewpoint to playing. True, we haven’t seen if the wealth system will try and balance this, but knowing WoTC I don’t think they will. It is possible all this has been taken into account, but as it isn’t a balance issue, probably not.Look at it this way, several players won’t need a golf bag, because they play character over a D&D stat-min-maxed player. Some will use this approach. And yes, with designer DR the golf bag becomes “more” likely for some gamers. Petrosian is pointing out that before this “designer DR” was introduced, it wasn’t as encouraged to carry around a bag of weapons (correct?). And he has got a point. Now, it won’t effect the way I play. Frankly, I don’t think it will effect the way Petrosian plays either. It’s not a big issue, but goading him into trying to “slip up” and defend a stance he hasn’t taken isn’t a very good idea either.I think a lot of people are very passionate about defending the system because they want 3.5E to be good and golden and the new way of life. I do too. Everyone needs to show a little more respect of other people’s views and take a breather. There are up sides and down-sides to every change WotC going to make. “designer DR” is going to add some flavor (which I REALLY like, and why I defended it), but it may make a “golf bag” approach more realistic for some players as well. Take the good with the bad, I guess. Munchinkinsque behavior will always exist. In the end, the rules really don't matter. The Balance and FUN (remember, that's why we are here. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />) is with the set of players and ultimately the DM. Hey you leave Gary G's porn out of this discussion. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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