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<blockquote data-quote="Technik4" data-source="post: 682663" data-attributes="member: 7211"><p><strong>Sigh</strong></p><p></p><p>From the MM, creatures with DR:</p><p></p><p>Aboleth/no</p><p>Achaierai/no</p><p>Allip/no</p><p>Animated Objects/no</p><p>Ankheg/no</p><p>Aranea/no</p><p>Arrowhawk/no</p><p>Assasin Vine/no</p><p>Athach/no</p><p>Azer/no</p><p>Barghest/yes 15/+1</p><p>Basilisk/no</p><p>Behir/no</p><p>Beholder/no</p><p>Belker/no</p><p>Blink Dog/no</p><p>Bodak/yes 15/silver</p><p>Bugbear/no</p><p>Bulette/no</p><p>Carrion Crawler/no</p><p>Celestials/yes 10/+1 - 35/+4</p><p>Centaur/no</p><p>Chaos Beast/no</p><p>Chimera/no</p><p>Choker/no</p><p>Chuul/no</p><p>Cloaker/no</p><p>Cockatrice/no</p><p>Coutal/no</p><p>Darkmantle/no</p><p>Delver/no</p><p>Demon/yes 5/silver - 30/+3</p><p>Destrachan/no</p><p>Devil/yes 5/silver - 25/+2</p><p>Devourer/no</p><p>Digester/no</p><p>Dinosaur/no</p><p>Dire Animals/no</p><p>Displacer Beast/no</p><p>Doppleganger/no</p><p>Dragon/yes 5/+1 - 20/+3</p><p>Dragon Turtle/no</p><p>Dragonne/no</p><p>Drider/no</p><p>Dryad/no</p><p>Dwarf/no</p><p>Elemental/yes 10+1 - 15/+3</p><p>Elf/no</p><p>Ethereal Filcher/no</p><p>Ethereal Marauder/no</p><p>Ettercap/no</p><p>Ettin/no</p><p>Formian/no</p><p>Frost Worm/no</p><p>Fungus/no</p><p>Gargoyle/yes 15/+1</p><p>Genie/no</p><p>Ghoul/no</p><p>Giant/no</p><p>Giant Eagle/no</p><p>Giant Owl/no</p><p>Gibbering Mouther/no</p><p>Girallon/no</p><p>Gnoll/no</p><p>Gnome/no</p><p>Goblin/no</p><p>Golem/yes 15/+1 - 50/+3</p><p>Gorgon/no</p><p>Gray Render/no</p><p>Grick/yes 15/+1</p><p>Griffon/no</p><p>Grimlock/no</p><p>Hag/no, see Steely Skin slashing and piercing -1 dam, Bludg +1</p><p>Halfling/no</p><p>Harpy/no</p><p>Hell Hound/no</p><p>Hippogriff/no</p><p>Hobgoblin/no</p><p>Homunculus/no</p><p>Howler/no</p><p>Hydra/no</p><p>Invisible Stalker/no</p><p>Kobold/no</p><p>Kraken/no</p><p>Krenshar/no</p><p>Kuo-Toa/no</p><p>Lamia/no</p><p>Lammasu/no</p><p>Lillend/no</p><p>Lizardfolk/no</p><p>Locathah/no</p><p>Magmin/yes 15/+1</p><p>Manticore/no</p><p>Medusa/no</p><p>Mephit/yes 5/+1 - 10/+1</p><p>Merfolk/no</p><p>Mimic/no</p><p>Mind Flayer/no</p><p>Minotaur/no</p><p>Mohrg/no</p><p>Mummy/ 5/+1, see Resistant to Blows Phys Attack only 1/2 dam</p><p>Naga/no</p><p>Night Hag/yes 20/+3</p><p>Nightmare/no</p><p>Nightshade/no</p><p>Nymph/no</p><p>Ogre/no</p><p>Ooze/no</p><p>Orc/no</p><p>Otyugh/no</p><p>Owlbear/no</p><p>Pegasus/no</p><p>Phantom Fungus/no</p><p>Phase Spider/no</p><p>Phasm/no</p><p>Planetouched/no</p><p>Pseudodragon/no</p><p>Purple Worm/no</p><p>Rkshasa/yes 20/+3</p><p>Rast/no</p><p>Ravid/no</p><p>Remorhaz/no</p><p>Roc/no</p><p>Roper/no</p><p>Rust Monster/no</p><p>Sahuagin/no</p><p>Salamander/yes 10/+1 - 20/+2</p><p>Satyr/no</p><p>Sea Lion/no</p><p>Shadow/no</p><p>Shadow Mastiff/no</p><p>Shambling Mound/no</p><p>Shield Guardian/no</p><p>Shocker Lizard/no</p><p>Skeleton/no, see Immunities only 1/2 dam from pierc or slash</p><p>Skum/no</p><p>Slaad/yes 10/+1 and 20/+2</p><p>Spectre/no</p><p>Sphinx/no</p><p>Spider Eater/no</p><p>Sprite/no</p><p>Stirge/no</p><p>Tarrasque/heh, yes 25/+5</p><p>Tendriculos/no</p><p>Thoqqua/no</p><p>Titan/yes</p><p>Tojanida/no</p><p>Treant/no, see Half Damage from Piercing</p><p>Triton/no</p><p>Troglodyte/no</p><p>Troll/no</p><p>Umber Hulk/no</p><p>Unicorn/no</p><p>Vampire Spawn/yes 10/silver</p><p>Vargouille/no</p><p>Wight/no</p><p>Will-o'-Wisp/no</p><p>Winter Wolf/no</p><p>Worg/no</p><p>Wraith/no</p><p>Wyvern/no</p><p>Xill/no</p><p>Xorn/no, see Half Damage from Slashing</p><p>Yeth Hound/yes 10/silver</p><p>Yrthak/no</p><p>Yuan-Ti/no</p><p>Zombie/no</p><p>Animals/no</p><p>Vermin/no</p><p>Celestial Template/yes 5/+1 - 10/+3</p><p>Fiendish Template/yes 5/+1 - 10/+3</p><p>Ghost/no</p><p>Half-Celestial/no</p><p>Half-Fiend/no</p><p>Half-Dragon/no</p><p>Lich/yes 15/+1</p><p>Lycanthrope/yes 15/silver</p><p>Vampire/yes 15/+1</p><p></p><p>Ok, 20 creatures (yes there are various demons, devils, and dragons) and 4 templates. That aint a whole lot folks. I stand by my statement that you could adventure to level 20 and only see a couple of creatures with DR, it isnt overwhelmingly likely because dms traditionally enjoy messing with creatures with DR, but its certainly possible. As far as how the DRs will be, weve heard that fey may pick up a cold iron DR, skeletons will get blunt DR, Pit Fiends will have holysilver, and Lyncanthropes will still have silver.</p><p></p><p>I noticed a few creatures with just silver for their DR already, but I bet since magic trumps silver it was a rare thing for people to actually have to break silver out on them. Seems like a shame. I'll lead someone else to speculate on this data, I wasted most of my lunch break getting it, though anyone with a MM1 could have done it just as easily.</p><p></p><p>Also note, they did (I think) say that some monsters will still have a magical DR requirement. My vote would be dragons, golems, elementals, and the mighty Tarrasque. Which means in the grand scheme of things, some templates, a couple of handfuls of outsiders, some fey, and lyncanthropes are getting different DR. And we argued about it for almost 11 pages now.</p><p></p><p>I also still believe that if you buy every weapon you possibly can IN CASE you fight something that needs it, your are paranoid. Its not common sense, on the contrary it would appear to be uncommon sense, or as I like to put it, metagaming. Please dont confuse this with a dm cleverly leaving clues that you may need silver for an upcoming fight, or that its rumored the foul denizens of far off planes can not be injured by mere steel. I am talking about the guys who at first level will buy 1 of every weapon type and material, just in case. It is NOT the same as someone buying some food for an extended adventure. </p><p></p><p>Technik</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Technik4, post: 682663, member: 7211"] [b]Sigh[/b] From the MM, creatures with DR: Aboleth/no Achaierai/no Allip/no Animated Objects/no Ankheg/no Aranea/no Arrowhawk/no Assasin Vine/no Athach/no Azer/no Barghest/yes 15/+1 Basilisk/no Behir/no Beholder/no Belker/no Blink Dog/no Bodak/yes 15/silver Bugbear/no Bulette/no Carrion Crawler/no Celestials/yes 10/+1 - 35/+4 Centaur/no Chaos Beast/no Chimera/no Choker/no Chuul/no Cloaker/no Cockatrice/no Coutal/no Darkmantle/no Delver/no Demon/yes 5/silver - 30/+3 Destrachan/no Devil/yes 5/silver - 25/+2 Devourer/no Digester/no Dinosaur/no Dire Animals/no Displacer Beast/no Doppleganger/no Dragon/yes 5/+1 - 20/+3 Dragon Turtle/no Dragonne/no Drider/no Dryad/no Dwarf/no Elemental/yes 10+1 - 15/+3 Elf/no Ethereal Filcher/no Ethereal Marauder/no Ettercap/no Ettin/no Formian/no Frost Worm/no Fungus/no Gargoyle/yes 15/+1 Genie/no Ghoul/no Giant/no Giant Eagle/no Giant Owl/no Gibbering Mouther/no Girallon/no Gnoll/no Gnome/no Goblin/no Golem/yes 15/+1 - 50/+3 Gorgon/no Gray Render/no Grick/yes 15/+1 Griffon/no Grimlock/no Hag/no, see Steely Skin slashing and piercing -1 dam, Bludg +1 Halfling/no Harpy/no Hell Hound/no Hippogriff/no Hobgoblin/no Homunculus/no Howler/no Hydra/no Invisible Stalker/no Kobold/no Kraken/no Krenshar/no Kuo-Toa/no Lamia/no Lammasu/no Lillend/no Lizardfolk/no Locathah/no Magmin/yes 15/+1 Manticore/no Medusa/no Mephit/yes 5/+1 - 10/+1 Merfolk/no Mimic/no Mind Flayer/no Minotaur/no Mohrg/no Mummy/ 5/+1, see Resistant to Blows Phys Attack only 1/2 dam Naga/no Night Hag/yes 20/+3 Nightmare/no Nightshade/no Nymph/no Ogre/no Ooze/no Orc/no Otyugh/no Owlbear/no Pegasus/no Phantom Fungus/no Phase Spider/no Phasm/no Planetouched/no Pseudodragon/no Purple Worm/no Rkshasa/yes 20/+3 Rast/no Ravid/no Remorhaz/no Roc/no Roper/no Rust Monster/no Sahuagin/no Salamander/yes 10/+1 - 20/+2 Satyr/no Sea Lion/no Shadow/no Shadow Mastiff/no Shambling Mound/no Shield Guardian/no Shocker Lizard/no Skeleton/no, see Immunities only 1/2 dam from pierc or slash Skum/no Slaad/yes 10/+1 and 20/+2 Spectre/no Sphinx/no Spider Eater/no Sprite/no Stirge/no Tarrasque/heh, yes 25/+5 Tendriculos/no Thoqqua/no Titan/yes Tojanida/no Treant/no, see Half Damage from Piercing Triton/no Troglodyte/no Troll/no Umber Hulk/no Unicorn/no Vampire Spawn/yes 10/silver Vargouille/no Wight/no Will-o'-Wisp/no Winter Wolf/no Worg/no Wraith/no Wyvern/no Xill/no Xorn/no, see Half Damage from Slashing Yeth Hound/yes 10/silver Yrthak/no Yuan-Ti/no Zombie/no Animals/no Vermin/no Celestial Template/yes 5/+1 - 10/+3 Fiendish Template/yes 5/+1 - 10/+3 Ghost/no Half-Celestial/no Half-Fiend/no Half-Dragon/no Lich/yes 15/+1 Lycanthrope/yes 15/silver Vampire/yes 15/+1 Ok, 20 creatures (yes there are various demons, devils, and dragons) and 4 templates. That aint a whole lot folks. I stand by my statement that you could adventure to level 20 and only see a couple of creatures with DR, it isnt overwhelmingly likely because dms traditionally enjoy messing with creatures with DR, but its certainly possible. As far as how the DRs will be, weve heard that fey may pick up a cold iron DR, skeletons will get blunt DR, Pit Fiends will have holysilver, and Lyncanthropes will still have silver. I noticed a few creatures with just silver for their DR already, but I bet since magic trumps silver it was a rare thing for people to actually have to break silver out on them. Seems like a shame. I'll lead someone else to speculate on this data, I wasted most of my lunch break getting it, though anyone with a MM1 could have done it just as easily. Also note, they did (I think) say that some monsters will still have a magical DR requirement. My vote would be dragons, golems, elementals, and the mighty Tarrasque. Which means in the grand scheme of things, some templates, a couple of handfuls of outsiders, some fey, and lyncanthropes are getting different DR. And we argued about it for almost 11 pages now. I also still believe that if you buy every weapon you possibly can IN CASE you fight something that needs it, your are paranoid. Its not common sense, on the contrary it would appear to be uncommon sense, or as I like to put it, metagaming. Please dont confuse this with a dm cleverly leaving clues that you may need silver for an upcoming fight, or that its rumored the foul denizens of far off planes can not be injured by mere steel. I am talking about the guys who at first level will buy 1 of every weapon type and material, just in case. It is NOT the same as someone buying some food for an extended adventure. Technik [/QUOTE]
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