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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Left-handed Hummingbird" data-source="post: 684301" data-attributes="member: 268">No golfbags...Even if every darn monster the characters met had DR, I wouldn't expect any of them to tug the golf bag. Why would they? A magic sword of plain ol' steel would be sufficient to deal with most of them.Compare a +5 steel long sword to a +2 nutella (whatever) long sword - when faced with the Gazebo with a DR of 5/nutella. The nutella sword with a +2 bonus to hit will damage for 3 to 10 HPs while the plain vanilla sword - using Power Attack to turn the to hit bonus down to effectively +2 - is going to hit for ...wait for it... 4 to 11 HP even though it doesn't bypass the DR!Thus, it would be better to have a single +5 weapon than a +2 special weapon when faced with DR 5 monsters.When the DR is very high - 10 for instance, the advantage of special weapons are higher, obviously. But that doesn't mean vanilla weapons will be useless: Consider the typical fighter fighting DR 10 monsters, he'll undoubtedly have +4 damage bonus from strength, and using the same comparison as above, that fighter would damage for 3 to 11 HP. Meager, compared to the special weapon wielding fighter who deals out 7 to 14 hp per hit - but not too shabby, considering the universality of the vanilla weapon. In most other cases (when fighting DR 0 monsters) it would be the other way around.Now, if the DR is exceptionally high (15) the vanilla wielding fighter has a hard time making dents - hitting only for 0 to 7 HPs per hit. He is, however, still damaging the creature, but he is clearly undermatched by the special material guy whom does double damage, compared to the vanilla guy.Yet this is most certainly the exception, and even if it isn't prepared for in advance - by bringing the weapon to defeat that particular foe with - it is still managable (if harder) to defeat the monster using your +5 weapon instead of your golf bag of +2 weapons.The cost/benefit of the golf bag just isn't high enough that you would wish to divide your costs among seven or eight weapons, when you can make do in all but the rarest cases by pooling most of your costs into an uber weapon.And probably those cases are even fewer if you chose to have +5 weapon of silver (or another special material the campaign monsters are susceptible to).Now, just because it will be better most of the time to carry a single +5 weapon than to carry around six or seven +2 weapons doesn't mean the DR change isn't substantial or important, because WHEN the fighter - by good fortune or because she knew she were going to fight a Pit Fiend - happens to have the proper special material weapon she'll have a great time flavorwise.As I said above. There is no need for the fighter to carry a golf bag. The problem is for the secondary fighters - though I agree with WizardDru that they have other powers. But just because there is no need for the golf bag, doesn't mean the change is irrelevant at all.</blockquote>

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