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<blockquote data-quote="Hawken" data-source="post: 4876187" data-attributes="member: 23619"><p>I think you're looking at this the wrong way. Drider shouldn't be a "monster" exactly, but a template to be added to any Drow of at least 4th level (that's when they get 'tested' by the clerics and either pass or fail and become a drider). </p><p></p><p>Drider is an acquired template that can only be gained by Drow. </p><p></p><p><strong>Size and Type:</strong> The character's size changes to Large, taking up a 10' space (two 5' squares) and has a 5' reach. The character's type changes to Monstrous Humanoid.</p><p><strong>Hit Dice:</strong> All previous HD change to d8, if they were lower. All future HD depend on class levels taken by the character.</p><p><strong>Speed:</strong> Base speed remains unchanged. The character gains a Climb speed equal to 1/2 their base speed. </p><p><strong>Armor Class:</strong> The character takes a -1 penalty to AC due to his increased size. He also gains a +6 natural armor bonus. </p><p><strong>Attack:</strong> The character gains two claw attacks and a bite attack.</p><p><strong>Full Attack:</strong> A Drider attacking without weapons uses its two claw attacks and makes a secondary bite attack. If armed with weapons, it uses its weapons as a primary attack and either its claw or bite as a secondary attack. </p><p><strong>Damage:</strong> Damage for the claws is 1d4 each, and 1d6 for the bite.</p><p><strong>Special Attacks:</strong> </p><p><em>Poison Bite:</em> Injury, Fortitude save DC 13 + Con modifier. Initial and secondary damage is 1d6 Dex.</p><p><strong>Special Qualities:</strong></p><p><em>Drow Heritage:</em> Driders are born Drow and have most racial traits that Drow possess except for the following: Their Darkvision range is reduced to 60' and they lose the Drow immunity to Sleep and the +2 bonus to Will saves against spells, spell like abilities and effects of an Enchantment type. </p><p><em>Spider Traits:</em> Because Driders are half spider, they share traits of monstrous spiders. The females have the traits of hunting spiders, while male driders have the traits of web spinning spiders.</p><p><em>Class Levels:</em> All Drow that become Drider have a minimum of 4 class levels in either Fighter, Rogue, Wizard (males only), or Cleric (females only). </p><p><strong>Abilities:</strong> Driders have the following ability modifiers: Str +4, Dex +2, Con +6, Wis -2, Cha -4. This is already taking into account the racial ability adjustments for Drow. </p><p><strong>Skills:</strong> Driders gain a +4 bonus to Hide and Move Silently. They gain a +8 bonus to Climb checks and may Take 10 on Climb checks even when not normally able to. </p><p><strong>Feats:</strong> If a Drow transitioned to a Drider at 6th level, he gains the Highborn Drow feat, allowing him to cast Detect Good, Detect Magic and Levitate as innate spell like abilities 1/day each. If the Drider is a female, she can cast the following spells 1/day as innate spell like abilities: Clairaudience/Clairvoyance, Detect Law, Dispel Magic and Suggestion.</p><p><strong>Level Adjustment:</strong> +4</p><p></p><p>The reduction of Darkvision, loss of Will save bonus and immunity to sleep are a byproduct of their transformation to a Drider, along with their new ability modifiers. The penalties for Wis and Cha come from loising a degree of sanity and their bitterness and hatred that comes about from their transformation and their being ostracized from their previous lives. </p><p></p><p>The feats thing is optional but it seemed a good way to explain all the extra innate spells they get in their MM entry.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hawken, post: 4876187, member: 23619"] I think you're looking at this the wrong way. Drider shouldn't be a "monster" exactly, but a template to be added to any Drow of at least 4th level (that's when they get 'tested' by the clerics and either pass or fail and become a drider). Drider is an acquired template that can only be gained by Drow. [B]Size and Type:[/B] The character's size changes to Large, taking up a 10' space (two 5' squares) and has a 5' reach. The character's type changes to Monstrous Humanoid. [B]Hit Dice:[/B] All previous HD change to d8, if they were lower. All future HD depend on class levels taken by the character. [B]Speed:[/B] Base speed remains unchanged. The character gains a Climb speed equal to 1/2 their base speed. [B]Armor Class:[/B] The character takes a -1 penalty to AC due to his increased size. He also gains a +6 natural armor bonus. [B]Attack:[/B] The character gains two claw attacks and a bite attack. [B]Full Attack:[/B] A Drider attacking without weapons uses its two claw attacks and makes a secondary bite attack. If armed with weapons, it uses its weapons as a primary attack and either its claw or bite as a secondary attack. [B]Damage:[/B] Damage for the claws is 1d4 each, and 1d6 for the bite. [B]Special Attacks:[/B] [i]Poison Bite:[/i] Injury, Fortitude save DC 13 + Con modifier. Initial and secondary damage is 1d6 Dex. [B]Special Qualities:[/b] [i]Drow Heritage:[/i] Driders are born Drow and have most racial traits that Drow possess except for the following: Their Darkvision range is reduced to 60' and they lose the Drow immunity to Sleep and the +2 bonus to Will saves against spells, spell like abilities and effects of an Enchantment type. [i]Spider Traits:[/i] Because Driders are half spider, they share traits of monstrous spiders. The females have the traits of hunting spiders, while male driders have the traits of web spinning spiders. [i]Class Levels:[/i] All Drow that become Drider have a minimum of 4 class levels in either Fighter, Rogue, Wizard (males only), or Cleric (females only). [B]Abilities:[/B] Driders have the following ability modifiers: Str +4, Dex +2, Con +6, Wis -2, Cha -4. This is already taking into account the racial ability adjustments for Drow. [B]Skills:[/B] Driders gain a +4 bonus to Hide and Move Silently. They gain a +8 bonus to Climb checks and may Take 10 on Climb checks even when not normally able to. [B]Feats:[/B] If a Drow transitioned to a Drider at 6th level, he gains the Highborn Drow feat, allowing him to cast Detect Good, Detect Magic and Levitate as innate spell like abilities 1/day each. If the Drider is a female, she can cast the following spells 1/day as innate spell like abilities: Clairaudience/Clairvoyance, Detect Law, Dispel Magic and Suggestion. [B]Level Adjustment:[/B] +4 The reduction of Darkvision, loss of Will save bonus and immunity to sleep are a byproduct of their transformation to a Drider, along with their new ability modifiers. The penalties for Wis and Cha come from loising a degree of sanity and their bitterness and hatred that comes about from their transformation and their being ostracized from their previous lives. The feats thing is optional but it seemed a good way to explain all the extra innate spells they get in their MM entry. [/QUOTE]
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