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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Eolin" data-source="post: 1050362" data-attributes="member: 13266">well, I for one like it.But it does seem to have a high cost of entry (3 feats, and a level in a fighter-esque class).Also, a lot of the books allow for either weapon focus or weapon finesse as a prereq. I'd do that. So if you want to finesse wield a dagger you don't need to also get focus in it. Also, and I will be the only one who says this ... with the already-high cost of entry I'd go ahead and get read of the required martial weapon prof. Maybe make the finesse/focus any martial weapon.Or maybe that's just biased towards elves and dwarves and orcs and the like.You can have the lowered cost of entry especially since you arn't getting anywhere near full spell progression. You miss what, 3 levels? Add in the level of fighter, and that's only 8th level spells at 20th level. 8. But just barely. and add bluff to the class skills.and instead of Expertise, how about any of the fighter's bonus feats?If you do the changes i just now said, you'd still be missing 3 levels of spell progression at 20th level. That's 8th level spells for a sorcerer, and ninth for a wizard. And just barely access to those. or is the point to not give wizards that take this 9th level spells?But yeah, i do like it. And most of my suggestions probably arn't good ones, as they lower the cost of entry to much.</blockquote>