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<blockquote data-quote="reapersaurus" data-source="post: 1050538" data-attributes="member: 1194"><p>Hell, it's better than EK, but that's really not saying that much, seriously. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>At least it has flavor, but it still gets too much of the best of both worlds.</p><p></p><p>3 levels of casting is only a drawback if you are comparing it to full casting.</p><p>That's not the proper comparison, guys.</p><p>To compare a spellcasting class that gets full BAB to one that gets full spellcasting shows how tilted the 'debate' about EK has gotten.</p><p></p><p>You just proposed a PrC that gets D8 HD, allows FULL BAB, gets good Will AND FORT saves, and almost gets full spellcasting AS WELL as gets pretty great special abilities when not getting spellcasting.</p><p></p><p>It's way overpowered, and if it wasn't for the EK, it would be immediately decried as munchkin.</p><p>No offense.</p><p></p><p>But since those observations and opinions will be handwaved, I'll add two specifics:</p><p></p><p>The Attune Weapon ability seems too abusable, since it seems he</p><p>could store 5th level spells in the weapon, to be released as free actions. The spellstoring ability is limited (for good reason, I'm sure) to 3rd level spells.</p><p></p><p>Also, the Eldritch Celerity ability is horrendously strong.</p><p>Also, how could it work if the wizard has already prepared their spells? Would they have to prepare the spell AS a Celerity'd spell for it to work?</p><p></p><p>P.s> It seems tailor-made for a sorcerer, since they could enter the PrC with Ftr2/Sor4 - or even better, a Pal2/Sor4.... hmmm.....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="reapersaurus, post: 1050538, member: 1194"] Hell, it's better than EK, but that's really not saying that much, seriously. :( At least it has flavor, but it still gets too much of the best of both worlds. 3 levels of casting is only a drawback if you are comparing it to full casting. That's not the proper comparison, guys. To compare a spellcasting class that gets full BAB to one that gets full spellcasting shows how tilted the 'debate' about EK has gotten. You just proposed a PrC that gets D8 HD, allows FULL BAB, gets good Will AND FORT saves, and almost gets full spellcasting AS WELL as gets pretty great special abilities when not getting spellcasting. It's way overpowered, and if it wasn't for the EK, it would be immediately decried as munchkin. No offense. But since those observations and opinions will be handwaved, I'll add two specifics: The Attune Weapon ability seems too abusable, since it seems he could store 5th level spells in the weapon, to be released as free actions. The spellstoring ability is limited (for good reason, I'm sure) to 3rd level spells. Also, the Eldritch Celerity ability is horrendously strong. Also, how could it work if the wizard has already prepared their spells? Would they have to prepare the spell AS a Celerity'd spell for it to work? P.s> It seems tailor-made for a sorcerer, since they could enter the PrC with Ftr2/Sor4 - or even better, a Pal2/Sor4.... hmmm..... [/QUOTE]
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