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<blockquote data-quote="reapersaurus" data-source="post: 1053973" data-attributes="member: 1194"><p>Your argument is well-detailed, but it's premise doesn't hold with me.</p><p></p><p>You base your argument on comparing bad multiclassing examples (Wiz5/Clr5).</p><p>I don't see why a primary spellcasting class should be multiclassing. </p><p>It's part and parcel of the gig - if you wanna cast spells, than cast spells. If you want to fight, don't dilute your levels with those of casting.</p><p></p><p>I just literally don't see a problem with wizard multiclassing, because I view a wizard as a solo class. With enough spellcasting, he can fill in for almost anyone's role. He can be sneaky, he can do hellacious damage, he can Polymorph into a better form for combat, he has utility spells, divination, he can even Transform himself into a good fighter. Why would he want any other class but more Wizard (other than a broken PrC, of course)?</p><p></p><p>and we all know how much better a cleric can be in combat than a fighter.</p><p></p><p>All I see when mages say "I want to multiclass" is "I want the best of both worlds".</p><p>And with these new PrC's that let the wizard do it, I see "I don't want to pay for the advantages."</p><p></p><p>You know what - if WotC made a Paladin PrC that gave full cleric spellcasting + the benefits of a Paladin, than I'd say Go have fun with your AT, MyT and EK.</p><p>But I can't, because Paladins are screwed when it comes to multiclassing.... STILL. And there's a hell of a lot more cross-over between Paladins and either fighters or clerics than there are any other classes. IOW, there's more justification (in and out of game) for a Cleric PrC that grants almost full spellcasting + Paladin benefits than for the trio of cheesy Wizard PrCs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="reapersaurus, post: 1053973, member: 1194"] Your argument is well-detailed, but it's premise doesn't hold with me. You base your argument on comparing bad multiclassing examples (Wiz5/Clr5). I don't see why a primary spellcasting class should be multiclassing. It's part and parcel of the gig - if you wanna cast spells, than cast spells. If you want to fight, don't dilute your levels with those of casting. I just literally don't see a problem with wizard multiclassing, because I view a wizard as a solo class. With enough spellcasting, he can fill in for almost anyone's role. He can be sneaky, he can do hellacious damage, he can Polymorph into a better form for combat, he has utility spells, divination, he can even Transform himself into a good fighter. Why would he want any other class but more Wizard (other than a broken PrC, of course)? and we all know how much better a cleric can be in combat than a fighter. All I see when mages say "I want to multiclass" is "I want the best of both worlds". And with these new PrC's that let the wizard do it, I see "I don't want to pay for the advantages." You know what - if WotC made a Paladin PrC that gave full cleric spellcasting + the benefits of a Paladin, than I'd say Go have fun with your AT, MyT and EK. But I can't, because Paladins are screwed when it comes to multiclassing.... STILL. And there's a hell of a lot more cross-over between Paladins and either fighters or clerics than there are any other classes. IOW, there's more justification (in and out of game) for a Cleric PrC that grants almost full spellcasting + Paladin benefits than for the trio of cheesy Wizard PrCs. [/QUOTE]
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