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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Belzamus" data-source="post: 4963859" data-attributes="member: 61612">Hmm...I never really thought about it. I really just needed a base to build them from, but they could be. The Sidereals would only be around Elder Ones in power for the most part, meaning...these are probably strong enough to function as avatars. Let's see...an average avatar for an average Elder One would have 60 HD and be an Intermediate Deity, so...a roughly 100 HD Quasi Deity (equivalent) would be nearly equal. So, yeah, I think they would function nicely, while the ELH Abominations could serve as Aspects, I'd imagine, with maybe a little work to bring them in line where necessary. I admit these are likely a little high-powered for most settings, and I'm a mean DM so they end up having nasty ability synergy. They might work better as unique entities in most games rather than the standard monster. Though, in my setting, the basic soldiery in the Firstborn Epoch are around ECL 100 or so, so these fit right in as run of the mill entities in there.  Though the idea of these Elder Abominations having armies of my versions is a little off base considering the fact they're as strong as their avatars. Hmm...probably stems from the fact that most of my other monsters have Sidereal patrons of Old One or First One status, which makes a little more sense. I have the Phane almost done, just have to write out its immunities. He's a piece of work. Should be up soon.</blockquote>

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