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<blockquote data-quote="green slime" data-source="post: 1815420" data-attributes="member: 1325"><p>I disagree. 10 feats? A non-human fighter has ten feats by 10th level. What then? In fact, given that a prerequisite is 16th Fighter, he also has another 5 feats, which could be spent on anything (Iron Will? Leadership? PA?). So tell me how this is going to have "every fighter with the same feats". Ideally, every fighter would not be interested in this feat, because, if there are enough valid choices, enough branching, then players and NPCs will persue their own path.</p><p></p><p>The idea is, that you have MANY feat chains. All leading to "cool payoffs". Say 20 different feat chains. Not all will persue the feat chains to the end. Some will prioritize other abilities, such as saving throws, or persue PrC requirements.</p><p></p><p>And last I played the game, <em>fly</em> was a spell, not something that fighters can do on their own. What on earth suggests to you, that a high level fighter with these feats, will not have the ability to fly? Or are you so certain of his abilities that he couldn't spare 2 feats on PBS & RS? You have, actually, no idea. His forehead isn't stamped with a X-HD sign. </p><p></p><p>The way I see it now, most fighters are pretty much the same. I'd like to see more combat feats, longer feat chains and more weapon specific feats. </p><p></p><p>How great a variety in feats taken by low level fighters do you see? This problem is increased at high levels. The Payback in expanded ability is diminishing. I have several players coming to me moaning because they cannot expand their ability in their primary weapon after 12th level. Fighters fight. It is basically, all they can do. Some players are not the least bit interested in picking up archery feats. Or mounted Combat feats. Or Wrestling feats. They want to be better with their axe (or halberd, or dildo, or...), in some fashion. And i can sympathise. Not everyone is interested in Bull Rushing/Disarming/Grappling/Mounted Thunder of Death....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="green slime, post: 1815420, member: 1325"] I disagree. 10 feats? A non-human fighter has ten feats by 10th level. What then? In fact, given that a prerequisite is 16th Fighter, he also has another 5 feats, which could be spent on anything (Iron Will? Leadership? PA?). So tell me how this is going to have "every fighter with the same feats". Ideally, every fighter would not be interested in this feat, because, if there are enough valid choices, enough branching, then players and NPCs will persue their own path. The idea is, that you have MANY feat chains. All leading to "cool payoffs". Say 20 different feat chains. Not all will persue the feat chains to the end. Some will prioritize other abilities, such as saving throws, or persue PrC requirements. And last I played the game, [i]fly[/i] was a spell, not something that fighters can do on their own. What on earth suggests to you, that a high level fighter with these feats, will not have the ability to fly? Or are you so certain of his abilities that he couldn't spare 2 feats on PBS & RS? You have, actually, no idea. His forehead isn't stamped with a X-HD sign. The way I see it now, most fighters are pretty much the same. I'd like to see more combat feats, longer feat chains and more weapon specific feats. How great a variety in feats taken by low level fighters do you see? This problem is increased at high levels. The Payback in expanded ability is diminishing. I have several players coming to me moaning because they cannot expand their ability in their primary weapon after 12th level. Fighters fight. It is basically, all they can do. Some players are not the least bit interested in picking up archery feats. Or mounted Combat feats. Or Wrestling feats. They want to be better with their axe (or halberd, or dildo, or...), in some fashion. And i can sympathise. Not everyone is interested in Bull Rushing/Disarming/Grappling/Mounted Thunder of Death.... [/QUOTE]
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