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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 4693364" data-attributes="member: 18">I don't think they would disagree, actually, because I don't think any of them would claim to be &quot;true innovators&quot;, and high-quality creative work is not necessarily tightly linked to innovation.The OGL certainly did do what you're discussing to some significant degree. The GSL, including this new GSL, utterly forbids it. Which is sad, really, and I think it kind of supports claims that WotC have damaged the industry, as the OGL/d20 was helpful in some ways, but served to focus the market on d20-style products, and now the new GSL doesn't allow them to be &quot;updated&quot; as it were to being 4E-style. I'm sure some overzealous defender of WotC will be along to explain, slowly and carefully, that no 3pp has a right to kind of continuing support, but I think if the claim is &quot;Overall, OGL/d20 has damaged the RPG industry and reduced diversity&quot;, then I think some support can be found for that argument.I mean, for my part, I'd love to see 4E-ized versions of quality OGL/d20 things like Spycraft, but given the GSL, I seriously doubt that we will. So we're almost back to square one, with a host of inconsistent and incompatible systems, only now there's a whole bunch of confused and semi-compatible d20-based ones in the mix too.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 4693364, member: 18"] I don't think they would disagree, actually, because I don't think any of them would claim to be "true innovators", and high-quality creative work is not necessarily tightly linked to innovation. The OGL certainly did do what you're discussing to some significant degree. The GSL, including this new GSL, utterly forbids it. Which is sad, really, and I think it kind of supports claims that WotC have damaged the industry, as the OGL/d20 was helpful in some ways, but served to focus the market on d20-style products, and now the new GSL doesn't allow them to be "updated" as it were to being 4E-style. I'm sure some overzealous defender of WotC will be along to explain, slowly and carefully, that no 3pp has a right to kind of continuing support, but I think if the claim is "Overall, OGL/d20 has damaged the RPG industry and reduced diversity", then I think some support can be found for that argument. I mean, for my part, I'd love to see 4E-ized versions of quality OGL/d20 things like Spycraft, but given the GSL, I seriously doubt that we will. So we're almost back to square one, with a host of inconsistent and incompatible systems, only now there's a whole bunch of confused and semi-compatible d20-based ones in the mix too. [/QUOTE]

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