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<blockquote data-quote="Cyber-Dave" data-source="post: 6922121" data-attributes="member: 82132"><p>No iserith, I do not think that the problem is really that the DM set up a challenge that is easily circumvented by an apprentice-tier class feature. You see, you have built a circular argument. The question is, "should that power be an apprentice-tier class feature?" You have already assumed it should. Thus, for you, the problem is that a DM set up a challenge easily circumvented by an apprentice-tier class feature. I don't think that the power should be an apprentice-tier class feature in the first place. It is too disruptive. I mean, compare this "apprentice-tier" class feature to a spell that the ranger only gets at 13th level (though some other casters can cast the spell at 7th level). Locate Creature. That spell only gives you the direction to one specific creature within 1,000 feet of you. That assumes that the creature isn't on the other end of a body of running water at least 10 feet wide. That also assumes that you have seen what you are trying to locate up close and personally at some point in time in your life. In the face of that spell, I am forced to conclude that Primal Awareness is too potent as written. Now, I would be ok with it, if the DM was given more wiggle room to adjudicate its use. As written though, I'm forced to disagree with your premise. This isn't an "apprentice-tier" feature. This is an incredibly powerful feature being, mistakenly, given out at apprentice-tier. And yes, I do see that as a problem...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cyber-Dave, post: 6922121, member: 82132"] No iserith, I do not think that the problem is really that the DM set up a challenge that is easily circumvented by an apprentice-tier class feature. You see, you have built a circular argument. The question is, "should that power be an apprentice-tier class feature?" You have already assumed it should. Thus, for you, the problem is that a DM set up a challenge easily circumvented by an apprentice-tier class feature. I don't think that the power should be an apprentice-tier class feature in the first place. It is too disruptive. I mean, compare this "apprentice-tier" class feature to a spell that the ranger only gets at 13th level (though some other casters can cast the spell at 7th level). Locate Creature. That spell only gives you the direction to one specific creature within 1,000 feet of you. That assumes that the creature isn't on the other end of a body of running water at least 10 feet wide. That also assumes that you have seen what you are trying to locate up close and personally at some point in time in your life. In the face of that spell, I am forced to conclude that Primal Awareness is too potent as written. Now, I would be ok with it, if the DM was given more wiggle room to adjudicate its use. As written though, I'm forced to disagree with your premise. This isn't an "apprentice-tier" feature. This is an incredibly powerful feature being, mistakenly, given out at apprentice-tier. And yes, I do see that as a problem... [/QUOTE]
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