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<blockquote data-quote="OB1" data-source="post: 7479025" data-attributes="member: 6796241"><p>It’s not bad that it’s free, it’s just free. What the UA Ranger is surely would have been toned down quite a bit were it to be made official. I’m arguing that it’s acceptable that the level of power gained for the beast companion should come with a price elsewhere. </p><p></p><p>But if your DM allows it, great! I would not allow it at my table. I’m a DM who allows literally everything officially printed by WotC but very little UA material. </p><p></p><p>So, since a Revised Ranger is dead, I’m curious as to how else to accomplish the goals of that style of play, and new spells seems the best way, as those spells could be added to a future supplement without needing to revise anything. </p><p></p><p>Of course someone who can take the UA Ranger wouldn’t choose this instead, but the question is if you couldn’t take the UA Ranger would you feel this matches your concept. </p><p></p><p>If I’m hearing you right, it’s important that your companion be an important part of each battle, which these spells don’t quite address. The solution here might be making Hunting Party an 8 hour spell (like mage armor) getting rid of concentration and the advantage mechanic. Maybe add that the temp hit points can be renewed by the ranger spending five minutes petting her companion. </p><p></p><p>And the fifth level spell still needs work. I think it should be something that feels epic. That your companion has become an unstoppable force of nature. </p><p></p><p>And it’s fine that you wouldn’t personally take Reincarnate. I still believe it’s an important option to have. Heck, some styles of play wouldn’t bother with revivify, choosing to just recruit a new beast if their current one dies. </p><p></p><p>That’s also important for awakened beast and find greater beast. As a player might choose to bond with different animals depending on their current needs. Otherwise you can learn and retrain next level. </p><p></p><p>Good note on the medium CR issue. Maybe best just to lock it at a specific CR and Large rather than have it in a sliding scale.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OB1, post: 7479025, member: 6796241"] It’s not bad that it’s free, it’s just free. What the UA Ranger is surely would have been toned down quite a bit were it to be made official. I’m arguing that it’s acceptable that the level of power gained for the beast companion should come with a price elsewhere. But if your DM allows it, great! I would not allow it at my table. I’m a DM who allows literally everything officially printed by WotC but very little UA material. So, since a Revised Ranger is dead, I’m curious as to how else to accomplish the goals of that style of play, and new spells seems the best way, as those spells could be added to a future supplement without needing to revise anything. Of course someone who can take the UA Ranger wouldn’t choose this instead, but the question is if you couldn’t take the UA Ranger would you feel this matches your concept. If I’m hearing you right, it’s important that your companion be an important part of each battle, which these spells don’t quite address. The solution here might be making Hunting Party an 8 hour spell (like mage armor) getting rid of concentration and the advantage mechanic. Maybe add that the temp hit points can be renewed by the ranger spending five minutes petting her companion. And the fifth level spell still needs work. I think it should be something that feels epic. That your companion has become an unstoppable force of nature. And it’s fine that you wouldn’t personally take Reincarnate. I still believe it’s an important option to have. Heck, some styles of play wouldn’t bother with revivify, choosing to just recruit a new beast if their current one dies. That’s also important for awakened beast and find greater beast. As a player might choose to bond with different animals depending on their current needs. Otherwise you can learn and retrain next level. Good note on the medium CR issue. Maybe best just to lock it at a specific CR and Large rather than have it in a sliding scale. [/QUOTE]
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