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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 7486309" data-attributes="member: 37579">The point is that deciding to fix the ranger because it scored poorly is entirely arbitrary. It's singling out a single class based on single data point (how unpopular the class is with a random bunch of nerds on the internet) and deciding that's the reason it should be remade. Again, you could just as easily pick other reasons to remake a class. It's the least popular. It's the least played. It has the least flavour. It's wasn't in OD&D. It doesn't match historical fiction.You could justify reworking the monk because it doesn't match the rest of the western medieval European tone of the game.You could drop the barbarian because the term "barbarian" is super not politically correct and is a poor descriptor of what the class actually does. You can ALWAYS find a reason to justify a change or a revision. That's easy.At the end of the day, the PHB ranger is popular with the PLAYERS. It is being played. A lot. What a small fraction of a fraction of the audience whines about online DOES NOT MATTER. Right now, the ranger not breaking anyone's game. People who don't like the ranger have eleven (and soon to be twelve and then thirteen) other choices. Included a scout ranger. Or multiclass fighter/ druid. It's not ruining campaigns or causing problems at game tables. But the fix could. After all, two of the reddit posts you linked weren't people complaining about their ranges being weak. They were people asking if rangers were weak BECAUSE they saw people talking about the ranger and the revised ranger. The revised ranger is making things WORSE. It is causing people to question the game and causing people to wonder if their character could be doing *better*.Could they fix it? Yes. They probably will with a 6th Edition of the game. Y'know, the equivalent of designing a new car because it performs poorly in wintery conditions. Recalling every single car of that model sold to improve it would be ridiculous. As would selling people a "fix" that they have to install themselves. The company waits for the car to run out its lifespan and uses the small bug as a selling feature for new cars. And I'm not ready for 6th Edition yet. And, really, there's a bajillion ranger fixes online. If people want a fix, they can find one. And likely ones that might be better than WotC's. It's not like WotC has some magical design powers that make everything they touch perfect. After all… they've taken three cracks at the ranger and people still seem unhappy. Do you REALLY think a fourth version of the ranger will solve everything. If you're not happy and satisfied with the ranger…. MAKE YOUR OWN. Take a bunch of the existing options and build a ranger that rubs you the right way. Stop looking to external sources for happiness.</blockquote>

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