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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 7487426" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>That's not how "appeal to the masses" or <em>argumentum ad populum</em> works. </p><p>That fallacy applies to someone saying "X" is true because the majority of people believe "X". It's the "50,000,000 Elvis Fans Can't Be Wrong" fallacy.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying the ranger isn't problematic. Or not weak. </p><p>I'm not saying the class couldn't have tighter design.</p><p>I'm not saying that you're wrong to not like the ranger. </p><p></p><p>What I am saying is that for a fix to be done to the game, there needs to be a critical mass of players who are having <em>actual problems </em>at their tables. Because issuing a fix will also cause disagreements and problems at tables, and if more people end up inconvenienced because of the fix than are helped, than the net result was negative.</p><p>And I'm also saying that WotC has looked at the number of players who are playing rangers, compared that with the number of players who complained about rangers, and decided that work on a revision would cause more problems than it would solve. And that even starting work on a ranger revision has just let to more dissatisfaction.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't need you to agree with me. You agreeing with me and $2 gets me a cup of coffee. </p><p>And I'm not the person you need to get agreeing with you. </p><p></p><p>That doesn't mean your opinion doesn't matter. It matters to you. It just doesn't matter to anyone else. Why would it?</p><p></p><p>Also... would you really <em>WANT </em>WotC to listen to small subsets of the fanbase over the majority?</p><p></p><p></p><p>We're not talking about the beast master. </p><p>Where does Crawford mention the beast master? Nowhere in the tweets is the beast master even <em>hinted </em>at. </p><p>The beast master is completely irrelevant to this conversation. </p><p></p><p>If the beast master is broken, you fix that subclass and not the class as a whole. Or make a new ranger pet subclass. Or don't and just let people pick from other subclasses.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 7487426, member: 37579"] That's not how "appeal to the masses" or [I]argumentum ad populum[/I] works. That fallacy applies to someone saying "X" is true because the majority of people believe "X". It's the "50,000,000 Elvis Fans Can't Be Wrong" fallacy. I'm not saying the ranger isn't problematic. Or not weak. I'm not saying the class couldn't have tighter design. I'm not saying that you're wrong to not like the ranger. What I am saying is that for a fix to be done to the game, there needs to be a critical mass of players who are having [I]actual problems [/I]at their tables. Because issuing a fix will also cause disagreements and problems at tables, and if more people end up inconvenienced because of the fix than are helped, than the net result was negative. And I'm also saying that WotC has looked at the number of players who are playing rangers, compared that with the number of players who complained about rangers, and decided that work on a revision would cause more problems than it would solve. And that even starting work on a ranger revision has just let to more dissatisfaction. I don't need you to agree with me. You agreeing with me and $2 gets me a cup of coffee. And I'm not the person you need to get agreeing with you. That doesn't mean your opinion doesn't matter. It matters to you. It just doesn't matter to anyone else. Why would it? Also... would you really [I]WANT [/I]WotC to listen to small subsets of the fanbase over the majority? We're not talking about the beast master. Where does Crawford mention the beast master? Nowhere in the tweets is the beast master even [I]hinted [/I]at. The beast master is completely irrelevant to this conversation. If the beast master is broken, you fix that subclass and not the class as a whole. Or make a new ranger pet subclass. Or don't and just let people pick from other subclasses. [/QUOTE]
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