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<blockquote data-quote="Grognerd" data-source="post: 7487822" data-attributes="member: 6968425"><p>Ok, I've been quiet since it largely seems to me like we are well past the point of beating a dead horse, resurrecting it, beating it again, making it undead, then beating it again! I'd argue that very cogent arguments have been presented, but the majority of them at this point - <em><strong>to my perception</strong></em> - have become fruitless. It really does seem - <em><strong>to my perception</strong></em> - that the revision crowd won't be satisfied until they get a companion to their PCs that is an equal peer. Not saying that's what you want. But the arguments that are being used, and far more importantly, the rejection of <em>every single alternative</em> that has been very reasonably presented lends that impression.</p><p></p><p>But cool. Forums are for arguing... oops, debating!</p><p></p><p>But this is simply untrue:</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think you meant to say "not everyone else feels..." Because I for one think that it is a reasonable limit. And I'm someone.</p><p></p><p>Then there is this...</p><p></p><p></p><p>You want a theme to work as WHO intended? Yeah... you do seem to be wanting to both have and eat cake, just saying...</p><p></p><p>Your case isn't helped with this bit of disingenuous obfuscation:</p><p></p><p></p><p>Mistwell never said you can't do both Melee and Ranged. He called you out that you seem to want <strong>both</strong> melee and ranged <em>in equal measure</em>, which is a fair call-out. He was pointing out that you need to decide where your priority lies. And you seem to want equal power in both realms.</p><p></p><p>But to avoid being completely negative...</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think this is a good point.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Grognerd, post: 7487822, member: 6968425"] Ok, I've been quiet since it largely seems to me like we are well past the point of beating a dead horse, resurrecting it, beating it again, making it undead, then beating it again! I'd argue that very cogent arguments have been presented, but the majority of them at this point - [i][b]to my perception[/b][/i][b][/b] - have become fruitless. It really does seem - [i][b]to my perception[/b][/i][b][/b] - that the revision crowd won't be satisfied until they get a companion to their PCs that is an equal peer. Not saying that's what you want. But the arguments that are being used, and far more importantly, the rejection of [i]every single alternative[/i] that has been very reasonably presented lends that impression. But cool. Forums are for arguing... oops, debating! But this is simply untrue: I think you meant to say "not everyone else feels..." Because I for one think that it is a reasonable limit. And I'm someone. Then there is this... You want a theme to work as WHO intended? Yeah... you do seem to be wanting to both have and eat cake, just saying... Your case isn't helped with this bit of disingenuous obfuscation: Mistwell never said you can't do both Melee and Ranged. He called you out that you seem to want [b]both[/b] melee and ranged [i]in equal measure[/i], which is a fair call-out. He was pointing out that you need to decide where your priority lies. And you seem to want equal power in both realms. But to avoid being completely negative... I think this is a good point. [/QUOTE]
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