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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mercule" data-source="post: 888630" data-attributes="member: 5100">I wasn't making a 1:1 comparison.  I didn't think I needed to clarify that.I've just seen a lot of people saying that the Ranger needs to be more like a Rogue and less like a Fighter.  I completely disagree.  Other than some stealth, I don't think the Ranger should resemble a Rogue much at all.  A Ranger should look as much like a Fighter as the Paladin or Barbarian does, though, and should be just as geared toward fighting as either one of those (and don't say "But then it'd just be a Fighter," because by that argument, neither the Paladin or Barbarian should exist, either).This new Ranger is about 50% Fighter and about 50% Rogue.  That's about 25% too much Rouge, IMHO.Don't get me wrong, though.  The class is awesome.  I like that they're mixing up the BAB and the Hit Dice some (why do all/only d10s and up have a 1:1 BAB and all only d4s have a 1:2 BAB and all/only d6s and d8s have a 3:4 BAB?).  I like some of the interesting abilities.  I'd be more than happy to play it.I just don't think the word "Ranger" fits it very well.  With this class, there really isn't a spot for a true Ranger, though.  They should just call this class something else (Hunter? Scout?) and forget Ranger ever existed.FWIW, if we're going for a Ranger, I really don't see Evasion.  Uncanny Dodge makes _much_ more sense.  I also think that virtual feats is an absolutely worthless (took me a second to find a nice word) mechanic -- either give 'em the feat or don't, no exceptions.  And, if I understand the Combat Path correctly, I hate the idea that a choice at 2nd level also sets a variable at 6th and 11th.  Bonus feats should have been used instead, if for no other reason than Alertness and Stealthy make as much (if not more) sense for a Ranger than TWF -- and it would fix both the virtual feat problem and the 2nd level choice sets the 6th/11th level choice.You asked for opinions and that's mine.  Take it or leave it.</blockquote>

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