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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Michael Tree" data-source="post: 888663" data-attributes="member: 1455">It seems to me that the only people who say that the 3.5 ranger is like a rogue are the people complaining about it.  The only commonality is better than average skill points, but rangers need those to be effective rangers.  Virtually all the archetyal rangers are good at tracking and surviving in the wilderness (including climbing, jumping, and swimming), moving stealthily and hiding, and noticing their surroundings with eagle eyes and uncanny hearing, and many have a natural way with animals and are good healers.  Those are a lot of skills, just to be like the archetypal ranger.  All of those (except the animal empathy) are skill Aragon excelled at.The 3.5 Ranger is just as geared toward combat as fighters, barbarians, and paladins, but all three excel at different kinds of combats.  The fighter excels at advanced combat techniques, the barbarian excels at ignoring danger and just charging into combat with a scream, and the ranger is the ultimate skirmisher, excelling at guerilla warfare and commando missions.Is the 3.5 ranger good at skills?  Yup.  Are they also good at combat.  Definitely.  They have slightly less hit points than before, but also have more combat feats than before.</blockquote>