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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Michael Tree" data-source="post: 894743" data-attributes="member: 1455">Re: My $0.02:At first level, yes, but then again the 3.0 ranger was ludicrously frontloaded. You do yourself and the game a disservice by vehemently complaining about something you know nothing about aside from the name.It works essentially the same as it does now, except that it uses the Handle Animal skill.  It's a new use of an old skill that rangers and druids get, in the same way that tracking is a new use of the wilderness lore/survival skill that rangers and others with the tracking feat get.That's a pretty big 'unless'.  They have changed the ability significantly, though we don't know all the details yet.  We do know that it's no longer a spell though.  It's probably a unique progression, like a familiar's.We don't know if they've changed the Reflex save.  If they havn't, then you're quite right, it isn't as useful as it is for Rogues.  That doesn't make it useless though.I suspect they didn't give Rangers uncanny dodge because the more classes that have it, the less useful a Rogue's sneak attack becomes.  Besides, with high listen and spot skills, uncanny dodge isn't all that neccessary to not be surprised.  You're quibbling about a name.  Just because the ranger ability is called Camouflage, doesn't mean that no one else can use mundane camouflage.  After all, you you need the Dodge feat to dodge attacks?  Do you need the Flurry of Blows ability to attack quickly?  Do you need the Wilderness Stride ability to walk through forests?  Are only barbarians capable of being really angry and rageful?As for the rest of your arguments, need I point out that we havn't seen the Ranger's skill and spell lists yet?  Don't make assumptions and then rant that you don't like the assumptions you've made.</blockquote>

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