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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 3297887" data-attributes="member: 4937">In 4th Edition, the new Samurai will look like this:Courtly Warrior [Trait, Background]You were educated in a refined warrior culture to be elegant in and out of battleBenefit: Whenever you take a level in fighter, you may treat Knowledge [Heraldry and Nobility], Diplomacy, and Perform as class skills.This is a very sage observation in my opinion, but there is very little here that couldn't be modeled with flavor and alignment.&nbsp; The idealized European knight was 'lawful good' - though in practice real world knights rarely met this ideal.&nbsp; The idealized Samurii was closer to 'lawful neutral', though in practice they rarely met this ideal either.&nbsp; But it is nonetheless true that few warrior cultures have ever managed to so thoroughly subsume the self in favor of the community as the Japanese/samurai/bushid.&nbsp; The Meiji transformation and percentage of thier national resources that they committed to WWII imply a level of what D&amp;D calls 'lawfulness' seldom if ever matched in world culture.But I don't see how that requires some special class for individuals, or if it does, then a prestige class if that's your cup of tea.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 3297887, member: 4937"] In 4th Edition, the new Samurai will look like this: Courtly Warrior [Trait, Background] You were educated in a refined warrior culture to be elegant in and out of battle Benefit: Whenever you take a level in fighter, you may treat Knowledge [Heraldry and Nobility], Diplomacy, and Perform as class skills. This is a very sage observation in my opinion, but there is very little here that couldn't be modeled with flavor and alignment. The idealized European knight was 'lawful good' - though in practice real world knights rarely met this ideal. The idealized Samurii was closer to 'lawful neutral', though in practice they rarely met this ideal either. But it is nonetheless true that few warrior cultures have ever managed to so thoroughly subsume the self in favor of the community as the Japanese/samurai/bushid. The Meiji transformation and percentage of thier national resources that they committed to WWII imply a level of what D&D calls 'lawfulness' seldom if ever matched in world culture. But I don't see how that requires some special class for individuals, or if it does, then a prestige class if that's your cup of tea. [/QUOTE]

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