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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 3298995" data-attributes="member: 4937">Ahhh... well you see, I'm not convinced that we need a paladin core class.&nbsp; So that's where we probably are getting mixed up.&nbsp; I do think we need some sort of divine demi-caster, but if one is to be implemented along the lines of a Paladin, it would probably be better looking like Book of the Righteous's 'Holy Warrior', which would let us make 'sword-saints' of any heritage we wanted to immulate just by adding a couple of feat sized class options to the class description.I'm not sure any of those abilities are reflected in Japanese tradition.&nbsp; I can't recall teleportation being part of being a Kensei.&nbsp; Running on water, flying, falling great distances without harm, inhumanly fast speed, sure, I can buy that.&nbsp; Those are part of eastern and Japanese traditions.&nbsp; Then again, you should probably already be able to think of a class which is more like a Kensei than a Paladin.&nbsp; I'm just saying if the classes and feats we had were well designed, we'd feel much less need for 80 or so core classes and hundreds of prestige classes.Sure. That's what I'm saying.Sounds reasonable.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 3298995, member: 4937"] Ahhh... well you see, I'm not convinced that we need a paladin core class. So that's where we probably are getting mixed up. I do think we need some sort of divine demi-caster, but if one is to be implemented along the lines of a Paladin, it would probably be better looking like Book of the Righteous's 'Holy Warrior', which would let us make 'sword-saints' of any heritage we wanted to immulate just by adding a couple of feat sized class options to the class description. I'm not sure any of those abilities are reflected in Japanese tradition. I can't recall teleportation being part of being a Kensei. Running on water, flying, falling great distances without harm, inhumanly fast speed, sure, I can buy that. Those are part of eastern and Japanese traditions. Then again, you should probably already be able to think of a class which is more like a Kensei than a Paladin. I'm just saying if the classes and feats we had were well designed, we'd feel much less need for 80 or so core classes and hundreds of prestige classes. Sure. That's what I'm saying. Sounds reasonable. [/QUOTE]

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