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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 4977502" data-attributes="member: 5890">Since the original quote is "walk across a room", yes. He starts out of the room and out of LOS, he walks across the room and out of LOS using shadow stride. Mission accomplished.Like I said, I think we're talking about two radically different scenarios: one is "I start unhidden, and without achieving concealment or cover, and using only rogue powers how can I become hidden and remain so while staying out of concealment". The other is "I start out of the room, walk across it in plain sight and leave the room again". Other permutations include stuff like "I can use things that a rogue has access to to achieve hiddenness" and "I am allowed to manufacture concealment".Suppose we adjust our bare-room scenario a little.The room contains something that provides partial cover to a standing individual, like a table:A rogue with the correct utilities can drop prone behind that partial cover, hide and then get up and walk away. Hell, he can move to the cover, drop prone and hide, and then stay there as his foes surround him, unable to tell where he went.Or we allow the use of items:He can throw a pair of smokesticks (why two? So he can get 5 squares of concealment, which becomes total concealment) then action point to move... well... anywhere in the room. Again, something that most other classes cannot do (a warlock can do this one though).</blockquote>