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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kerrick" data-source="post: 4512778" data-attributes="member: 4722">There isn't one, really... when I did the sorcerer, which was the first of the major revisions, I chose those levels for bloodline abilities, 1/6/11/16 for innate powers, and 1/5/10/15/20 for class abilities. It kind of carried over into other classes because it was convenient - 4 abilities was enough to spread out through the class, and the level spread worked.You know, you're right. I was looking over the "School Specialization" thing, and it requires you to choose at 1st level, which is silly. I'll change it to "you must choose by 3rd level".Hmm. Interesting idea... when I overhauled the bard, I made four different "groups" of songs, and the higher-level ones required one or more lower-level ones as prereqs. Requiring Spell Focus isn't that big a deal, since most specialists will take it anyway, but I'm not sure I want to add prereqs to something you're taking at L3.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Yeah, the generalist kinda got the short end of the stick. I wasn't too happy with their powers (I know they suck), but it was the best I could come up with. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> Arcanist sounds like a good name for generalists.You're right, but I should note that I'm using the Pathfinder skill system - 1 rank = 1 point, no cross-class. It helps, a lot.I know. I wanted to take the High Arcana stuff from the Archmage, but most of those fit better in the specialist schools. I wasn't too happy withAgreed.They're not "beefed up" so much as "made more interesting to play". Well, okay - the sorcerer is beefed up, but that's not saying much. The monk is more focused and has more or less the same power level. If you're interested, you can download the zipfile with all the classes (sans wizard) <a href="http://shtar.pbwiki.com/f/classes.zip" target="_blank">here</a>.Well, since I'm going with (again) Pathfinder's unlimited cantrips, extra cantrips isn't much good, but I can still use the second part (increased effective level). I like how you have two paths - this is how I've constructed most of the other classes, so it fits perfectly.One extra L1 spell vs. a L1 or L2 is fine, IMO - losing the cantrip is no big deal. Does the Versatile Arcanist ability mean that you can cast any prepared spell an extra time, or do you gain an additional slot (like from a ring of wizardry) that you can use for any spell you know?I'd probably drop Complete Casting here in place of the cantrips thing, and give specialists Spell Focus, then eliminate the L4 ability.The other VA abilities are definitely worth not specializing, and keep Arcanists on a par with specialists without crossing the lines.</blockquote>

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