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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8239798" data-attributes="member: 7023840">Half-giants are not BORN into slavery.From the section on half-giants-"Because of their limited intellectual capacity, half-giants do poorly in positions of power. They make short-lived templars and aristocrats, and most people are far too cautious with their wealth to buy anything that a half-giant craftsman makes. Therefore, even if born into freedom, the unfortunate members of this race find it difficult to make a living as an honest freeman ..." (emphasis mine)Muls are always BRED as slaves, true (which, yes, is icky), because they are STERILE. They cannot breed. But they are not classified as slaves BECAUSE they are muls (race-based). So a new Dark Sun should probably rectify this instead of having the icky "order the births of as many as possible."But again, this is the Roman system, not the American RACE-BASED CHATTEL SYSTEM.First rule of holes- when you're in one, stop digging. I'm not sure why you find it necessary to both mis-read what I wrote, and then keep arguing with me. I don't like to argue.</blockquote>