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<blockquote data-quote="Quip" data-source="post: 781844" data-attributes="member: 3816">If a race has a bonus to strength, then that race is best suited to melee types, yes? And what exactly does a fighter, ranger, or barbian lose out on by a penalty to charisma? Nothing! Balance isn't about numbers as much as it is value. Even an inteligence penalty, without a loss in charisma, isn't worth nearly as much. Few skills improve the job of a fighter, and those that do aren't easily available.Even with both Int and Cha penalties, what Half-Orc barbarian is even going to care then? Mine never would!It could work the other way too, of course: a race that had an Int bonus would not be much bothered by a drop in Str, since most often that race would be wizards. Str and Cha is a better balance, though Dex alone might be as good.Other points... the awareness feat that orcs have is not a racial trait, that is just the default 1st level feat for an orc. Likewise the fortitude bonus is not inherent, its from their default class of warrior.Skill points is not nearly as strong as the bonus feat. It may be stronger than certain feats, like endurance or something, but not just any bonus feat. Feats increase a characters power and abilities far more than a single skill point per level ever could.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Quip, post: 781844, member: 3816"] If a race has a bonus to strength, then that race is best suited to melee types, yes? And what exactly does a fighter, ranger, or barbian lose out on by a penalty to charisma? Nothing! Balance isn't about numbers as much as it is value. Even an inteligence penalty, without a loss in charisma, isn't worth nearly as much. Few skills improve the job of a fighter, and those that do aren't easily available. Even with both Int and Cha penalties, what Half-Orc barbarian is even going to care then? Mine never would! It could work the other way too, of course: a race that had an Int bonus would not be much bothered by a drop in Str, since most often that race would be wizards. Str and Cha is a better balance, though Dex alone might be as good. Other points... the awareness feat that orcs have is not a racial trait, that is just the default 1st level feat for an orc. Likewise the fortitude bonus is not inherent, its from their default class of warrior. Skill points is not nearly as strong as the bonus feat. It may be stronger than certain feats, like endurance or something, but not just any bonus feat. Feats increase a characters power and abilities far more than a single skill point per level ever could. [/QUOTE]

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